US Erection 12 *AND* 16

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Topper » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:35 am

Reef. Facts too difficult for you?
Over the Internet, you can pretend to be anyone or anything.

I'm amazed that so many people choose to be complete twats.

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Per » Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:19 am

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It's intriguing how history repeats itself

This is an actual WW2 cartoon by Dr Seuss. :mex:
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Per » Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:24 am

Here's another one:

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Reefer2 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:17 pm

Topper wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:35 am
Reef. Facts too difficult for you?
No - but it seems the irony of name of the writer and how they actually write seems be lost on you.

In today's world I can find a hundred threads, forums, comments that contradicts many parts of his write up. People hear what they want to heard.

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by 5thhorseman » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:35 pm

Reefer2 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:17 pm
Topper wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:35 am
Reef. Facts too difficult for you?
No - but it seems the irony of name of the writer and how they actually write seems be lost on you.

In today's world I can find a hundred threads, forums, comments that contradicts many parts of his write up. People hear what they want to heard.

WPE
Holy shit Reef, you make absolutely no sense at all! Who cares how many opinions you can find on the Internet.

Why not try this: find some FACTS that contradict the write-up. Engage and win a debate about it. If people still refuse to change their mind, then you're entitled to say that "people hear what they want to be heard (sic)".

But I reckon instead you'll continue with your defeatist mumbo-jumbo.

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Cornuck » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:54 pm

#nottheonion

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Topper » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:07 pm

Awesome!

Folks complaining are style over substance.
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Strangelove » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:36 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:02 pm
Per wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:42 pm
Also, the separation was never required by law. It was just a policy decision, which is why he himself could stop it without any need for congress to do anything.
Lord Trump had to separate families to effectively enforce the law as it is spelled out.

Congress failed to perma-fix this so Lord trump issued this EO as a stopgap.

Congress still needs to deal with this as the Supreme Court could toss the EO.


What happens going forward when it is proven that some of these "parents" are in reality human traffickers?

(happens all the time, but now they'll be locking them up with the kids)

Also I think children in these situations can only legally be detained for 20 days, so what happens after 20 days?

Congress is dysfunctional these days, which is why EOs are more and more common (I believe Obama set a new record).
Nice to see the NY Times and the Washington Post agree with me...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/p ... order.html

But ending the practice of separating families still faces legal and practical obstacles. A federal judge could refuse to give the Trump administration the authority it wants to hold families in custody for more than 20 days, which is the current limit because of a 1997 court order.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpos ... 6032c5ef42

The plan would keep families together in federal custody while awaiting prosecution for illegal border crossings, potentially violating a 1997 court settlement limiting the duration of child detentions.
It takes much more than 20 days to prosecute the parents.

So again I ask "What happens after 20 days?"

Congress has needed to fix this for decades and keeps failing to do so...
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Island Nucklehead » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:40 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:36 pm

So again I ask "What happens after 20 days?"
Deport the entire family.

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Reefer2 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:23 pm

5thhorseman wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:35 pm
Reefer2 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:17 pm
Topper wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:35 am
Reef. Facts too difficult for you?
No - but it seems the irony of name of the writer and how they actually write seems be lost on you.

In today's world I can find a hundred threads, forums, comments that contradicts many parts of his write up. People hear what they want to heard.

WPE
Holy shit Reef, you make absolutely no sense at all! Who cares how many opinions you can find on the Internet.

Why not try this: find some FACTS that contradict the write-up. Engage and win a debate about it. If people still refuse to change their mind, then you're entitled to say that "people hear what they want to be heard (sic)".

But I reckon instead you'll continue with your defeatist mumbo-jumbo.
Why? It is another opinion.

WHAT I was trying to say, maybe you do not comprehend this part was the fact about the authors name BUT he/she then goes on to give a biased opinion.

I am not even saying it is right or wrong but if you want to state facts then keep it that way.

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Strangelove » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:11 am

^ Defeatist mumbo-jumbo.

You need to prove the guy is biased or stfu...
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Topper » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:39 am

So the Honduran kid that is on the Time cover....

Mother was deported once before in 2013

Mother took the kid without the father's knowledge and headed back to the US border to try again
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Reefer2 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:09 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:11 am
^ Defeatist mumbo-jumbo.

You need to prove the guy is biased or stfu...
Lol - sure

Nice always to see The Mod do his thing.

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by 5thhorseman » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:18 pm

Yeah Reef, you can't state that the writer is biased and then claim you're "not even saying it is right or wrong".

Look up those big words in a dictionary before you use em man!

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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16

Post by Strangelove » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:19 pm

Reefer2 wrote:
Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:09 pm
Strangelove wrote:
Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:11 am
^ Defeatist mumbo-jumbo.

You need to prove the guy is biased or stfu...
Lol - sure

Nice always to see The Mod do his thing.
Well I wasn't posting as a mod but, now that you mention it, you do nothing to stir debate.

Believe it or not Reef some people have reasons for the things they believe.

(expressing those reasons can lead to healthy debate)

You seem more like a "How does this opinion look on me" kinda guy.

A "fuck facts" kinda guy amirite?
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