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Re: International Politics & Stuff

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:09 am
by Per
Arachnid wrote:
Per wrote: *sigh* Now you're just being obtuse on purpose. O, como se dice en castellano, ¡no te hagas el sueco! ;)

OK, let me dumb it up for you. If I put it this way:

I can understand that given the circumstances, people raised in Ontario may root for the Toronto Maple Leaves.

Now, this does not mean that I'm good with it, that I agree with it or that I condone it.
It simply means that I can understand it; that my empathic resources are big enough for me to grasp that it is fairly reasonable for some one with that background to end up making something that I'm sure we can both agree would feel completely wrong for us.

So, given the circumstances, people may become Leaf fans, drop bombs, etc.
I can understand it, but it doesn't mean I approve of it. Capice? :eh:
:twisted: All my offspring ARE NOT Leaf fans :evil:
I said may, not that they are doomed to be it by absolut (TM) certainty.
Arachnid wrote: That's like saying all Scandinavians are homoerotic Vikings :evil:
:shock:

Well, I guess we do all look a bit like Alex Skarsgård..... :oops:

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Arachnid wrote: Or all Abortionfords are inbred born-again Armageddon freakish rednecks :evil:
What? You're saying some of them aren't? :o

You had better provide some sort of link to back that up...

Re: International Politics & Stuff

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:21 am
by Arachnid
Per wrote:
Arachnid wrote:
Per wrote: *sigh* Now you're just being obtuse on purpose. O, como se dice en castellano, ¡no te hagas el sueco! ;)

OK, let me dumb it up for you. If I put it this way:

I can understand that given the circumstances, people raised in Ontario may root for the Toronto Maple Leaves.

Now, this does not mean that I'm good with it, that I agree with it or that I condone it.
It simply means that I can understand it; that my empathic resources are big enough for me to grasp that it is fairly reasonable for some one with that background to end up making something that I'm sure we can both agree would feel completely wrong for us.

So, given the circumstances, people may become Leaf fans, drop bombs, etc.
I can understand it, but it doesn't mean I approve of it. Capice? :eh:
:twisted: All my offspring ARE NOT Leaf fans :evil:
I said may, not that they are doomed to be it by absolut (TM) certainty.
Arachnid wrote: That's like saying all Scandinavians are homoerotic Vikings :evil:
:shock:

Well, I guess we do all look a bit like Alex Skarsgård..... :oops:

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Arachnid wrote: Or all Abortionfords are inbred born-again Armageddon freakish rednecks :evil:
What? You're saying some of them aren't? :o

You had better provide some sort of link to back that up...
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Is that better :evil:

Don't mess with the...

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Sometimes I think you two should get a room at the Swedish Ice Palace Hotel with all your libido innuendo... :|

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Re: International Politics & Stuff

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:46 am
by Per
Arachnid wrote: Image

Is that better :evil:
:|

Not sure of the context here.... Are those Abortionfordians or your kids?

They kind of look like Leaves fans..... :look:



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Isn't the name of the plane (not to mention the way the guy to the far left wears his shorts) a violation of the don't ask, don't tell policy?


(Yeah, yeah, yeah... it's his mother. :roll: )

Re: International Politics & Stuff

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:07 am
by Arachnid
Per wrote:
Arachnid wrote: Image

Is that better :evil:
:|

Not sure of the context here.... Are those Abortionfordians or your kids?

They kind of look like Leaves fans..... :look:
Jeez, do you not play Zelda in your monarchy fairytale land of Sweden?! And for that matter I thought you were housebroken, anglofied and pop cultured enough to post here 8-)

No, they are definitely from the lower mainland....this is a Leaf fan

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Re: International Politics & Stuff

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:06 am
by Per
Time to perform CPR on this thread.

Did you all catch the news on the Greek elections? :shock:

Wow, nasty! I mean, every one knew that the voters were going to punish the coalition between socialists and conservatives that have been trying to enforce the rigourous cost cutting measures demanded by the EU and the IMF in return for granting Greece renewed loans so they do not have to default. But this... :hmmm:

OK, the conservatives came in first and the socialists third, but they've been reduced from ca 40% each to roughly 15% each, so they're basically being reduced to rubble, having less than one third of the seats in parliament combined.

In second place (also with some 15% of the vote) is a left wing radical party. And in Europe left wing means way left and radical is way radical. Compared to this crowd the socialists are a centrist party that may actually, as proven, form a coalition with the conservatives. :look:

In fourth place is a right wing populist party that wants to spend its way out of the crisis (as if they weren't already mired in debt) and plan to demand damages from Germany for WWII. Yeah, right. Like that's going to happen.

In fifth place we have the traditional communists, hammer, sickle and all. :wow:

And in sixth place, with 7 % of the vote, we have a nazi party, Golden Dawn, a party that is not only hostile to Jews, Muslims and homosexuals, but also claim to oppose the industrial revolution. :roll:

Good luck trying to form a government with a parliamentary majority out of this mess! :lol:

Sure, pulverising dead babies and sell as a cure for any imaginable disease (as in Strangelove's post in another thread) is disgusting, morally corrupt and thoroughly thoroughly nasty, but the current political situation in Greece is also nauseating and downright scary to boot.

You know, odd thing: 80% of Greeks polled say they want to keep the Euro, and yet two thirds have voted for parties that will make it impossible for them to do so. :|
Are they just stupid, or are they seriously hoping that the other EU members will gladly accept to have their tax payers settle the Greek debt so that the Greeks themselves won't have to do anything?
:stupid:

Re: International Politics & Stuff

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:29 am
by Arachnid
Per wrote:Time to perform CPR on this thread.

Did you all catch the news on the Greek elections? :shock:

Wow, nasty! I mean, every one new that the voters were going to punish the coalition between socialists and conservatives that have been trying to enforce the rigourous cost cutting measures demanded by the EU and the IMF in return for granting Greece renewed loans so they do not have to default. But this... :hmmm:

OK, the conservatives came in first and the socialists third, but they've been reduced from ca 40% each to roughly 15% each, so they're basically being reduced to rubble, having less than one third of the seats in parliament combined.

In second place (also with some 15% of the vote) is a left wing radical party. And in Europe left wing means way left and radical is way radical. Compared to this crowd the socialists are a centrist party that may actually, as proven, form a coalition with the conservatives. :look:

In fourth place is a right wing populist party that wants to spend its way out of the crisis (as if they weren't already mired in debt) and plan to demand damages from Germany for WWII. Yeah, right. Like that's going to happen.

In fifth place we have the traditional communists, hammer, sickle and all. :wow:

And in sixth place, with 7 % of the vote, we have a nazi party, Golden Dawn, a party that is not only hostile to Jews, Muslims and homosexuals, but also claim to oppose the industrial revolution. :roll:

Good luck trying to form a government with a parliamentary majority out of this mess! :lol:

Sure, pulverising dead babies and sell as a cure for any imaginable disease (as in Strangelove's post in another thread) is disgusting, morally corrupt and thoroughly thoroughly nasty, but the current political situation in Greece is also nauseating and downright scary to boot.

You know, odd thing: 80% of Greeks polled say they want to keep the Euro, and yet two thirds have voted for parties that will make it impossible for them to do so. :|
Are they just stupid, or are they seriously hoping that the other EU members will gladly accept to have their tax payers settle the Greek debt so that the Greeks themselves won't have to do anything?
:stupid:
I guess will find out on December 21st if it was the right decision... :eh:

Re: International Politics & Stuff

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:34 am
by donlever
May an (wot) alarm on the 22nd awaken you happy, healthy and wise.....

Re: International Politics & Stuff

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:37 am
by Arachnid
donlever wrote:May an (wot) alarm on the 22nd awaken you happy, healthy and wise.....
Doc gave me one for ChristMass, I'm sure it'll work :blush:

Re: International Politics & Stuff

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:43 am
by donlever
Arachnid wrote:
donlever wrote:May an (wot) alarm on the 22nd awaken you happy, healthy and wise.....
Doc gave me one for ChristMass, I'm sure it'll work :blush:
..check for C2 in the workings before you use it.

Re: International Politics & Stuff

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:26 pm
by Per
Fun fact: Palestinians are actually Jews. 8-)
http://features.beliefnet.com/news/2011 ... rchers.php

Re: International Politics & Stuff

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:29 pm
by Per
Terrible suspense tonight. Will Berlusconi rise from the dead and eat Europe's brain?

One shudders at the thought. Most Europeans cannot fathom that the Italians may once again vote for this shady character, but then controlling most of Italy's TV and radio stations and owning several of the major news papers plus the best football team may have something to do with it. :baaa:

Crossing my fingers that the Italians will vote sensibly tonight. But I'm worried. :|

Re: International Politics & Stuff

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:22 pm
by damonberryman
Per wrote:Terrible suspense tonight. Will Berlusconi rise from the dead and eat Europe's brain?

One shudders at the thought. Most Europeans cannot fathom that the Italians may once again vote for this shady character, but then controlling most of Italy's TV and radio stations and owning several of the major news papers plus the best football team may have something to do with it. :baaa:

Crossing my fingers that the Italians will vote sensibly tonight. But I'm worried. :|
Europe is changing so fast it is hard to keep up. I remember when I lived in England and the schools in some areas wanted kava and yams as well as other exotics provided at the school luncn. The school borad would have to fly them in each week and of course....money.

The French seem to be reacting to the huge influx of Muslims in their country, and I can kind of get it. Now I may be predjudice as I was in NYC on 9/11, but what about the immigrants responsibility to acculturate? Certainly we can have multi-cultural societies but there must be reciprocal efforts from those moving in. They are not in wherever they came from and the onus is on them to fit in just as much as it is on us to be welcoming. If we do not expect that from immigrants are we not treating them on a double standard that is the essence of predjudice?

Burkas etc. look great in the countries they come from. I sat around a campfire in Oman in 1974 and watched the fire reflect off copper masks while female eyes peeked out. Our schools and courts depend upon the concept of honesty and openess. How are you to trust when you cannot see the face?

I suppose religion is the justification and freedom of religion the main argument but I think religion is the dumb person's fall back position and besides, it has already caused enough bullshit on our planet. Should be outlawed and spirituality on a personal level take over.

Re: International Politics & Stuff

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:55 pm
by Arachnid
damonberryman wrote:
Per wrote:Terrible suspense tonight. Will Berlusconi rise from the dead and eat Europe's brain?

One shudders at the thought. Most Europeans cannot fathom that the Italians may once again vote for this shady character, but then controlling most of Italy's TV and radio stations and owning several of the major news papers plus the best football team may have something to do with it. :baaa:

Crossing my fingers that the Italians will vote sensibly tonight. But I'm worried. :|
Europe is changing so fast it is hard to keep up. I remember when I lived in England and the schools in some areas wanted kava and yams as well as other exotics provided at the school luncn. The school borad would have to fly them in each week and of course....money.

The French seem to be reacting to the huge influx of Muslims in their country, and I can kind of get it. Now I may be predjudice as I was in NYC on 9/11, but what about the immigrants responsibility to acculturate? Certainly we can have multi-cultural societies but there must be reciprocal efforts from those moving in. They are not in wherever they came from and the onus is on them to fit in just as much as it is on us to be welcoming. If we do not expect that from immigrants are we not treating them on a double standard that is the essence of predjudice?

Burkas etc. look great in the countries they come from. I sat around a campfire in Oman in 1974 and watched the fire reflect off copper masks while female eyes peeked out. Our schools and courts depend upon the concept of honesty and openess. How are you to trust when you cannot see the face?

I suppose religion is the justification and freedom of religion the main argument but I think religion is the dumb person's fall back position and besides, it has already caused enough bullshit on our planet. Should be outlawed and spirituality on a personal level take over.
Ahhh the ol' xenophobia strikes again....we're all immigrants here, did the Europeans try to fit into North America First Nations customs? Hmmmmmm?! No, they imposed its own. Like the life style you've become accustomed to? Yeah well, guess what? Those same Euro Immigrants that were our forbears stopped having kids because they were too busy trying to buy a bigger house in the 'burbs...well golly gee we gotta find us some low lifes to do the dredge work so our unsustainable growth model can burst it's puss bubble..

You granddaughters will be pop'n out gray babies soon enough and worshiping Mohamed 8-)

Re: International Politics & Stuff

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:00 pm
by Uncle dans leg
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Re: International Politics & Stuff

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:01 pm
by Strangelove
damonberryman wrote: Religion is the dumb person's fall back position.

Religion should be outlawed and spirituality on a personal level take over.
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