Midsummer, might as well talk politics

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Topper wrote:
Rumsfeld wrote:Where does everyone stand on evolution?
I stand at the apex.
:lol: Well played. But biologically all peoples are equally evolved, according to that scientific consensus crap.

Culturally, on the udder hand...

*begins drive to Abbotsford with passenger seat full of Molotov cocktails*

Fucking Protestants. :scowl:
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Strangelove wrote:Wow that was weird, typo, meant dicks.

My apologies, no offense intended.

Some of my best friends are you-know-wots.

My GRANDDAD was a you-know-wot...
S'all good, I really mon't dind. I've been drinking Guinness since 5 am.
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Rumsfeld wrote: S'all good, I really mon't dind. I've been drinking Guinness since 5 am.
Typical! :D
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Can we just nuke Syria and get it over with. This is fucking ridiculous.
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JT just put a moratorium on tanker traffic for the BC north coast. Those greasy Syrian refugees won't be living next any 8 foot tall ambulance drivers.
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Rumsfeld wrote: Scientific consensus is for the birds. And dicks.
Rumsfeld wrote: according to that scientific consensus crap.
"Scientific consensus" is an oxymoron youmoron.

See, there is opinion and there is Science... and never the twain should meet.

Just tell us what you know.

Modern science has become highly politicized of late.

The peer-review process has become crippled by confirmation bias.

True scientific debate is more and more a thing of the past.

In other words: They've got their fingers in their ears and their heads up their butts!

The next Galileo/Pasteur/Newton might go unheard.. unwept, unhonoured, and unsung.
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what the fuck

Justin Trudeau has committed to lifting visa requirements for Mexicans???

This kid is doing some serious damage and he hasn't been in power for two weeks yet
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They'll all move to the burb's like Abbotsford and Delta etc. :o
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Topper wrote:what the fuck

Justin Trudeau has committed to lifting visa requirements for Mexicans???
Round these parts we got migrant workers from Mexico who are German speaking Mennonites. Their grocery stores are all spaetzle and tameles.

I know enough history to be weary of these krauts.
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Rayxor wrote:
Topper wrote:what the fuck

Justin Trudeau has committed to lifting visa requirements for Mexicans???
Round these parts we got migrant workers from Mexico who are German speaking Mennonites. Their grocery stores are all spaetzle and tameles.

I know enough history to be weary of these krauts.
In the 1950's Belize gave a huge chunk of very fertile river valley land to a Mennonite group from Manitoba. If it weren't for them the country would starve. They have the big feed and grain stores and supply stores. The best mechanics, the big factory poultry businesses....

Farm raised chicken in Belize = Local chicken
Store bought = Old dead white Mennonite chicken

we called them Menintights
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Strangelove wrote: (but yes, once upon a time it was the scientific consensus that the Earth was facing an impending mini ice age)
I finally got around to doing some reading on that 70's science.

No, it wasn't a consensus. Yes, there were some researchers who hypothesized that we could be seeing an anthropogenic (i.e. caused by human activity) cooling trend due to aerosol particulates. Aerosols are also how volcanic eruptions can cause cooling, btw. It seems that about 10% of published research was pointing to a cooling trend. None of them ever suggested a "mini ice age"

At the same time, other researchers were looking at how anthropogenic greenhouse gases could cause a warming trend. Taking both factors into account, the net effect suggested a warming trend, so by the late 70's all researchers were incorporating these into their models. The warming trend predicted by these models has, so far, been confirmed.
Asking what data it was based on should be your second question.

(your first question should be... what are all the unproven assumptions you are being asked to accept)
You need to understand the data before you can make any assessments.
And doesn't the little data we have indicate the Sun is approaching a cooling trend?
That's a small part of large amount of data we have, and will be included in future models (assuming that further research doesn't find flaws in that particular study)
Recent climate models proven wrong, NASA proclaiming last week that the icecaps are actually increasing, etc...
Localized weather fluctuations don't prove models wrong. If anything, they might show how the models can be improved. They don't come out with new models every year. They modify and improve the models based on all the data available, both previous and new.

So, the original statement that those 70's scientists predicted a mini ice age is a bit misleading. Information gets awfully muddied as it passes through the filter of media, bloggers, lobbyists and facebook feeds. It's no wonder that people are skeptical of science when the info they get is basically a tabloid headline version of the original story.

Like you , Doc, I'm here to help people. :)
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Topper wrote: we called them Menintights
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http://www.scmsa.eu/archives/SCM_RC_2015_08_24_EN.pdf
There is not a single fact, figure or observation that leads us to conclude that the world‘s climate is in any way 'disturbed‘. It is variable, as it has always been, but rather less so now than during certain periods or geological eras. Modern methods are far from being able to accurately measure the planet‘s global temperature even today, so measurements made 50 or 100 years ago are even less reliable.

Concentrations of CO2 vary, as they always have done; the figures that are being released are biased and dishonest. Rising sea levels are a normal phenomenon linked to upthrust buoyancy; they are nothing to do with so - called global warming. As for extreme weather events – they are no more frequent now than they have been in the past. We ourselves have processed the raw data on hurricanes
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That's awesome Doc, it's great that you have the courage to challenge accepted scientific conclusions like evolution and climate change.

All whilst simultaneously accepting fairy tales such as hollow earth theory (lol) and the story of Christianity as fact.

Seriously, very brave of you. :lol:

Then again, you do think Jim Benning is a genius...
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What calibre were the scientists that wrote that white paper? Guess what is wrong with the following excerpt:
Human beings cannot, in any event, change the climate. If we in France were to stop all industrial activity (let‘s not talk about our intellectual activity, which ceased long ago), if we were to eradicate all trace of animal life, the composition of the atmosphere would not alter in any measurable, perceptible way. To explain this, let us make a comparison with the rotation of the planet: it is slowing down. To address that, we might be tempted to ask the entire population of China to run in an easterly direction. But, no matter how big China and its population are, this would have no measurable impact on the Earth‘s rotation.
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