Carlyee wrote:Jerusalem is mentioned in the bible, and no where in the Quran. The Israelis are fighting for their home. The Palestines are fighting because that's what they do. I buy Sabra Hummus, own a Tar-21 and support Israel 100%. Does Israel seem to ignore the conventions of modern warfare? I think so, but they also understand their enemy's chicken shit tactics better than any of us can ever hope to.
Before you freak out, I am agnostic and do not subscribe to any religious notions. All I know is that this particular conflict predates WWI and to try and paint the Israelites as a bunch of claim jumpers from Europe is absurd.
There are two major groups of Jews in Israel. One is the Sephardic and they look like they belong in the Middle-East. Dark of skin and eyes, the physical relation between them and the Arab is clear. Just for the record there are really black Jews coming out of Ethiopia and they are generally discriminated against.
The other group of Jews is the Ashkenazi (sp) and they often are fair and can have red hair. Most of them come from the ghettos of Northern Europe and Russia. Fair skin and light colouring is often seen in this group. Aside from a slight Semitic cast to some, they are the furthest thing from belonging to that part of the world as this white Canadian. Just because they say Israel is theirs does not make it true. Not without the heavy support of America including armaments.
Israel is America's way of stirring the Muslim pot so they can continue to bank big bucks in guns and oil. To see this conflict as about religion is naive. It is about money. Keep those Muslim buggers on the farm and that takes care of that particular problem. How long did a real Muslim last in Egypt? Who do you think al-sisis works for?
We watch the BAD Muslims cut off aid worker heads and the GOOD Israelis represent the forces of Democracy. Blah? Bullshit. Imagine who we would be cheering for if the Muslims owned all the media instead of Americans? Have you looked at the infant mortality and poverty in the camps? Why did Israel pick this time to open more settlements in the West Bank? America goes tut tut tut all the way to the bank.
I recognize the right of anyone to live in Israel including the Palestinians. They used to own it. What do you think happened? What about the Irgut and the King David Hotel (Balfour Agreement down the shitter)? Who were the terrorists? No one wanted all those traumatized refugees from the camps of German Europe so we turned them loose on the Holy Land. It is another Crusade with the Jews as the Crusaders and just like the Knights on horseback, they took everything that is not nailed down under the name of God.
I worked two years in Oman and Yemen and I do not recognize the picture of Arabs painted by the Western Media. It is another shuck brought to you by the same people who are legislating the current wealth disparity.
While we all freak out over the cutting off of four heads by some maniac and as previously recognized, the Jews go on killing while the so-called terrorists send rockets in the air much the same as a hail Mary pass. They do this out of the camps and draw scorn for putting civilians at risk. There are no large parks in Hamas-held ground. It is all Urban.
Netanyahu points out how Hamas must be cowardly, hiding behind civilians all the time, but today's tech allows instant tracing of where those rockets come from and I cannot but wonder how much guts it must take to fire them not knowing if it will do anything but get you killed real quick.
They all deserve a home and not a ghetto or camp, but no one, as usual is willing to share.
The city of Jerusalem is also mentioned in the New Testament. Does being a Christian give anyone the right to move there?
