donlever wrote:Engineers and Consultants are a blast.
They set everything up...design, details, the works...and then off load the responsibility on to me (or try to) all the time.
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donlever wrote:Engineers and Consultants are a blast.
They set everything up...design, details, the works...and then off load the responsibility on to me (or try to) all the time.
donlever wrote:...unfortunately we can debate it all we like Pete. Use semantics where we will. This is becoming an increasingly problematic area of the construction industry. If you "hire" Billy Bob and Bobby Ray to do your roofing for you and they have no allowance for occupational health and welfare and no plan for safety on the site and one of their guys bites it, loses an arm, an eye, whatever, someone will come looking for you and at the very least rattle your cage.
You are in Manitoba right Pete.
I quickly grabbed this from your OHSA act...
Owners are by default the Prime Contractor. Unless you enter a contract with a competent employer to serve as the Prime Contractor, your legal duties also include (WSH Act section 7 (2) (a))
...so if YOU (thats YOU Pete) do not ensure the competency of the company you hire that makes you prime and therefore responsible for the safety of the project.
More and more OHSA is making the home or building owner responsible for the welfare of those employed to work on their properties.
What has to happen is that a company needs to accept liablity as prime contractor on site to remove the onus from the building owner. This means you have to hire the right people who are licenced, insured, covered by the local OHSA board AND have a proper and up to date health and safety plan in place both generally and for each individual project.
There is precedent set already in Canada where owners have been held liable on things just like this.
We are talking mega fines and the threat of jail time.
The price is not always right.
Gordo has lots of coin and high priced lawyers so he'll fight the shit out of it but the truth is that someone will be looking for cash out of him be it the family of the guy who dies or whichever entity pays them out.

ukcanuck wrote:every time I hear or read about that colossal turd Gordon Campbell I am reminded and sickened by how unfair and unjust this mortal coil really is...
seriously,
Topper wrote:ukcanuck wrote:every time I hear or read about that colossal turd Gordon Campbell I am reminded and sickened by how unfair and unjust this mortal coil really is...
seriously,
Gordon is now doing a wonderful job as Canada's High Commissioner to the UK.
Maybe you'll bump into him on the street on day.
Or he may bump into you.....
Topper wrote:Is Trisomy 18 a brand of anal lube?
SKYO wrote:Topper wrote:Is Trisomy 18 a brand of anal lube?
regardless you definitely want to use protection.
Topper wrote:Skyo, I think my joke was an infamous Topper comment that no one got.
Sick Bunny wrote:Topper wrote:Skyo, I think my joke was an infamous Topper comment that no one got.
Sometimes it sucks to be so over-the-top clever that no-one can even appreciate how clever you are.
ODB wrote:
I should change my handle from ODB to Mr. Wonderful.
donlever wrote:ODB wrote:
I should change my handle from ODB to Mr. Wonderful.
...otherwise known as donlever.
ODB wrote:Sick Bunny wrote:Topper wrote:Skyo, I think my joke was an infamous Topper comment that no one got.
Sometimes it sucks to be so over-the-top clever that no-one can even appreciate how clever you are.
I'll be the first to admit I “get” about 3% of Toppers jokes. I didn't really get the Trisomy 18 anal lube crack but in fairness I didn't really spend any time trying to sort out the code. I am familiar with Edwards Syndrome, (as in what it is, not personal first hand knowledge, thank that deity Bunny doesn’t believe in) and say I'm getting soft in my old age if you want but I don't see the humor in that stuff. So I'm not going to spend any time trying two work out the funny.
ODB wrote:I understand that's Topper's warped sense of humor and it’s one of the reasons I love the guy.... but sick babies doesn't tickle my funny bone.

Topper wrote:Greased Rick's campaign and bureaucrats love things in triplicate.
Kid isn't slowing down my sense of humour. He's downstairs right now. Watching channel 889. It reminds him of swimming on the reef in Belize. We took him on holidays with us.
short simple sentences so Ohdee gets it
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