Sochi 2014: Who Makes the Cut?

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Re: Sochi 2014: Who Makes the Cut?

Postby SKYO » Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:45 pm

WJC is showing why we need elite snipers in such a short tourny for Sochi, at least the "checking line" of Toews, Richards, Bergeron or something similar to that can score a lot still.

That extra forward they will select I hope is a young sniper like Seguin he's on fire and can bring that speed/tenacity/elite skill to the table to help win those close games.
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Re: Sochi 2014: Who Makes the Cut?

Postby SKYO » Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:20 pm

I'm warming up to the ideal of Kunitz on our top line with Crosby, has a couple Stanley Cups, is playing on fire..

I'm gonna assume Stamkos will get selected regardless of his injury..

This is BPrice's picks :o , seems pretty solid tho' however I'd like to see Benn on this team as well.

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Re: Sochi 2014: Who Makes the Cut?

Postby Arachnid » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:53 pm

Lefty Hamhouse going for gold?! :shock:
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Re: Sochi 2014: Who Makes the Cut?

Postby ClamRussel » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:40 am

Possibly. He's a better choice than Giordano or Staal.

I find it hard to believe Richards probably isn't going to make this team. He'd be the perfect 4th line center imo. Sharp better make it, can't believe a guy w/ his wheels & versatility is considered a bubble player for the roster.
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Re: Sochi 2014: Who Makes the Cut?

Postby SKYO » Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:33 am

And now Couture is out with surgery, so that could bode well for the bubble players like Duchene, Benn.
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Re: Sochi 2014: Who Makes the Cut?

Postby Reefer2 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:15 am

Why are they taking so long?

It is 8:14 and they have not even named a player yet? Who cares about politicians or anyone else.

Too much politics already.
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Re: Sochi 2014: Who Makes the Cut?

Postby Arachnid » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:41 am

ClamRussel wrote:Possibly. He's a better choice than Giordano or Staal.

I find it hard to believe Richards probably isn't going to make this team. He'd be the perfect 4th line center imo. Sharp better make it, can't believe a guy w/ his wheels & versatility is considered a bubble player for the roster.


.....and.... he's in! Nice to see two Orcas on the team this time. Pair him with PK :D

Sharp in Giroux out, hmmm, Claude is on fire these days, not sure if the was the right decision.
I don't like James Neal, I know the family and they are all a bunch of dicks so I don't think that is much of a stretch to leave him off. It's about team unison as much as talent.

On to Sochi, can't wait.
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Re: Sochi 2014: Who Makes the Cut?

Postby dbr » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:42 am

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Roberto Luongo
Carey Price
Mike Smith

D
Jay Bouwmeester
Drew Doughty
Dan Hamhuis
Duncan Keith
Alex Pietrangelo
PK Subban
Marc-Eduard Vlasic
Shea Weber

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Jamie Benn
Patrice Bergeron
Jeff Carter
Sidney Crosby
Matt Duchene
Ryan Getzlaf
Chris Kunitz
Patrick Marleau
Rick Nash
Corey Perry
Patrick Sharp
Steven Stamkos
John Tavares
Jonathan Toews

No St. Louis. No Thornton. No Giroux.

Have a hard time believing people arrived at the conclusion that Marleau and Kunitz are both better than all three of those guys, but here we are.
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Re: Sochi 2014: Who Makes the Cut?

Postby herb » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:48 am

I’m surprised and disappointed Nash made the cut over Giroux. I’m also a bit surprised Seabrook didn’t make the cut, but am stoked we will have two Canucks in Sochi!
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Re: Sochi 2014: Who Makes the Cut?

Postby dbr » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:00 am

herb wrote:I’m surprised and disappointed Nash made the cut over Giroux. I’m also a bit surprised Seabrook didn’t make the cut, but am stoked we will have two Canucks in Sochi!


Nash, of course. I didn't even think about that, just assumed he's going to be there like the Ryan Smyth of his generation.. but yeah he's going to have to up his game in a big way to contribute at a level that would justify being taken over some of the players he edged out.
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Re: Sochi 2014: Who Makes the Cut?

Postby Lancer » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:21 am

I have to believe they took Marleau as the better skater over Thornton the better passer. Little puzzled they took Carter and left off Giroux but it may be a size or positional thing. Same thing with Nash over St. Louis - size size over speed. The Nash decision may be the biggest boner of all the selections, but even so, I guess he takes a seat in the pressbox if he doesn't up his game in the first one or two preliminary matches. As for Kunitz, I dunno but they must have a lot of faith in what Kunitz can do aside from mesh with Crosby.

On the other side of the coin, their bubble choices on defence opted for skating over size - Hamhuis over Seabrook being the example. Vlasic over Boyle... meh, Boyle was getting over the hill anyway. Why not?
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Re: Sochi 2014: Who Makes the Cut?

Postby herb » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:52 am

I thot Phanoof wud b picked over Hamhuis cuz of his size.
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Re: Sochi 2014: Who Makes the Cut?

Postby herb » Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:03 am

^ Marleau also plays wing, whereas Thornton and Couture are exclusively centers. On a team that already has eight other centers, they probably don't need Thornton.

The defensive group is perfectly balanced with four left and right handed shots.

So who plays center? My guesses are Crosby, Getzlaf, Bergeron and Toews,
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Re: Sochi 2014: Who Makes the Cut?

Postby Topper » Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:04 am

The obvious criteria was range. Either speed, passing, skating and/or positioning. The range (pure square metres of ice) each of the choices can cover is outstanding. That is why I think Staal is more of a bubble player than Giroux or St Louis.

On defence, all of these guys can play defence away from the boards giving opponent the perimeter to do with as they please while securing the scoring areas. Keith and Suban are the two I could see having problems defensively on the big ice, but that is a very fine line. I think it was the deciding factor with Seabrook.

I have no problem with the Nash selection as I think he'll once again be a third/fourth line players and used to shut down opponents as he did in Vancouver. Glad to see Benn and Duschane make it, but not convinced with Kunitz. In post announcement interviews his play at the Worlds was mentioned as a factor, so I'll go with that.

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Re: Sochi 2014: Who Makes the Cut?

Postby Per » Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:08 am

herb wrote:I’m surprised and disappointed Nash made the cut over Giroux. I’m also a bit surprised Seabrook didn’t make the cut, but am stoked we will have two Canucks in Sochi!

Two?! Come on! There'll be loads of them!

Sweden also announced its roster today:

Goalies:
Jhonas Enroth, 25, Buffalo
Henrik Lundqvist, 31, New York Rangers
Jonas Gustavsson, 29, Detroit

Defence:
Oliver Ekman-Larsson, 22, Phoenix
Niklas Hjalmarsson, 26, Chicago
Henrik Tallinder, 34, Buffalo
Alexander Edler, 27, Vancouver
Johnny Oduya, 32, Chicago
Jonathan Ericsson, 29, Detroit
Niklas Kronwall, 32, Detroit
Erik Karlsson, 23, Ottawa

Forwards:
Daniel Alfredsson, 41, Detroit
Patrik Berglund, 25, St Louis
Marcus Krüger, 23, Chicago
Jakob Silfverberg, 23, Anaheim
Nicklas Bäckström, 26, Washington
Alexander Steen, 29, St Louis
Loui Eriksson, 28, Boston
Daniel Sedin, 33, Vancouver,
Henrik Sedin, 33, Vancouver
Henrik Zetterberg, 33, Detroit
Jimmie Ericsson, 33, Skellefteå
Carl Hagelin, 25, New York Rangers
Gabriel Landeskog, 21, Colorado
Johan Franzén, 34, Detroit

Couple of surprises on the blue line; no Hedman, Brodin or Murray.
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