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GDT: Canucks host Canes - 6pm - Snet

Postby Cornuck » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:44 am

Remember the early 6pm start!

The Canes come into town continuing their extended road trip that started in Europe. Here's the scoop from a friend who's a Caniac.

A lock for you guys if we play the way we did last night in Ottawa. Weaknesses: Winning faceoffs - got away with that in Finland against the Wild, won't be so lucky the rest of the way, I'm sure. Work in our own end was putrid. Strengths: Ward is good - made some fantastic saves but needs help in front of him. The Sedins will feast on this unless we adjust. Could come down to Luongo vs. Ward. Given team talent plus passion of the home town fans: Advantage Canucks.


I think the Canucks will continue to play the same style until they get it right, although the need for a full 60 minute effort must have stressed in the locker room. Also, Raymond gets his shot with the Sedins.

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Re: GDT: Canucks host Canes - 6pm - Snet

Postby jchockey » Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:25 pm

I bet Schneider makes his first start with back-to-back MIN/CHI coming up. Fully expecting Luongo to play both games. You can't bench him against Minny because they're a division rival and you benching him against the Hawks is like showing a sign of fear. Plus with Luongo's competitiveness you want him fired up against the Hawks.
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Re: GDT: Canucks host Canes - 6pm - Snet

Postby dondo » Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:11 pm

sadly this is the attitude that gets us into trouble goalie-wise. You don't not start Schneider because he might lose, you challenge him to step it up. If the team takes a loss, then they take a loss. Playing Lu in back to back games is silly, but could be what AV might do, using your logic. Lu isn't playing well and not getting them the wins anyway, so a shake-up should be in the cards. I would have put Schneider in versus the Kings, but now his first chance will probably be versus Minny.

I don't like the idea of putting Schneider in the meat-grinder either and giving him his first start at home in front of a crowd a bit too hungry for a win might be too much for him.
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Re: GDT: Canucks host Canes - 6pm - Snet

Postby the toucan kid » Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:16 pm

Also, Raymond gets his shot with the Sedins.


Not a good fit at all. Stick him back with Kesler, it will happen. AV is just jumping the gun with the line mix ups as usual. Probably be back to normal by the second period.

I would definitely put Schneider in here, they can't wait too long and reasonably expect a lot out of him.
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Re: GDT: Canucks host Canes - 6pm - Snet

Postby jchockey » Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:21 pm

dondo wrote:sadly this is the attitude that gets us into trouble goalie-wise. You don't not start Schneider because he might lose, you challenge him to step it up. If the team takes a loss, then they take a loss. Playing Lu in back to back games is silly, but could be what AV might do, using your logic. Lu isn't playing well and not getting them the wins anyway, so a shake-up should be in the cards. I would have put Schneider in versus the Kings, but now his first chance will probably be versus Minny.

I don't like the idea of putting Schneider in the meat-grinder either and giving him his first start at home in front of a crowd a bit too hungry for a win might be too much for him.


You start a goalie knowing that you can win but why wouldn't you put your best goalie out there against must-win teams? Other than his awful five-hole performance against the Kings Lou's played well. If Schneider plays tonight he definitely won't play against the Wild. No way he gets back-to-back starts.
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Re: GDT: Canucks host Canes - 6pm - Snet

Postby the toucan kid » Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:10 pm

All I've got to say is that Torres-Malhotra-Sammuelson could be one hell of a third line.

I guess we might just be one top six forward short. But MG has the tools to get one along the way, and if we're going to really go win the thing, then why not pay the cost?

You've got Schroeder, you've got a 1st round pick. Sorry if I'm getting ahead of myself... but when you have a cup contender, the first half of the season almost seems like preseason anyway.
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Re: GDT: Canucks host Canes - 6pm - Snet

Postby Cornuck » Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:28 pm

the toucan kid wrote:All I've got to say is that Torres-Malhotra-Sammuelson could be one hell of a third line.

I guess we might just be one top six forward short.


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Re: GDT: Canucks host Canes - 6pm - Snet

Postby Cornuck » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:18 pm

THIS is the game we needed tonight - great job by all.
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Postby Arachnid » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:35 pm

Cornuck wrote:THIS is the game we needed tonight - great job by all.


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Re: GDT: Canucks host Canes - 6pm - Snet

Postby dondo » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:57 pm

very nice start by Schneider, helps that the team played the full 60 -- lots of slumps bumped and Schneider's solid 'tending kep them in there until the goals started coming -- they also were recipients of some nice puck luck. Passes threading through legs to the open side. The Canes didn't play that poorly, but the nucks had a great complete game.

After that performance I'd like to see Corey get one of the back-to-back starts.

Good to see Kes, Raymond and Sammuelsson get their goals
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Re: GDT: Canucks host Canes - 6pm - Snet

Postby woodhog » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:16 pm

Nice to see Schneider come up big with 32 saves. It'll give the coaches the confidence to play him any time they think Roberto needs a rest.

the toucan kid wrote:
Also, Raymond gets his shot with the Sedins.

Not a good fit at all. Stick him back with Kesler, it will happen. AV is just jumping the gun with the line mix ups as usual.


The line changes obviously worked very well tonight. For once the Sedins didn't overshadow everyone else. The lines seemed a little more balanced. Especially the 3rd line.

the toucan kid wrote:All I've got to say is that Torres-Malhotra-Sammuelson could be one hell of a third line.
I guess we might just be one top six forward short.


I've got to agree with you here. That could be one of the best 3rd lines in the league. Even when Burrows returns we'll be short a top 6er if we keep Samuelsson on the 3rd line. Hansen and Tambi just don't cut it.
Seeing that we're right up against the cap, a trade for a top 6er would be tough without giving up someone with significant salary like Bieksa.
Chances are that Samuelsson will go back to the 2nd line and Hansen back to the 3rd when Burr comes back.
Tambi will probably be the odd man out.
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Re: GDT: Canucks host Canes - 6pm - Snet

Postby the toucan kid » Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:06 am

We're just waiting for Burrows, then all will be right with the universe again.


Nope... I think we're still one guy short. Maybe it will be Hodgson eventually this year.
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Re: GDT: Canucks host Canes - 6pm - Snet

Postby Island Nucklehead » Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:33 am

the toucan kid wrote:
We're just waiting for Burrows, then all will be right with the universe again.


Nope... I think we're still one guy short. Maybe it will be Hodgson eventually this year.


How do you figure? Until the guys that did pretty well last year prove they CAN'T play that way this year, I think we're looking pretty good when it comes to scoring. Burrows and Samuelsson put up some pretty good stats last year, 1-2 on the team in goals. There probably aren't many guys available that will put up those kind of numbers to allow us to have a potential 30-goal guy on the third line.
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Re: GDT: Canucks host Canes - 6pm - Snet

Postby the toucan kid » Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:50 am

How do you figure? Until the guys that did pretty well last year prove they CAN'T play that way this year, I think we're looking pretty good when it comes to scoring. Burrows and Samuelsson put up some pretty good stats last year, 1-2 on the team in goals. There probably aren't many guys available that will put up those kind of numbers to allow us to have a potential 30-goal guy on the third line.


Just something about Kesler-Raymond-Samuellson doesn't look right. I love Samuellson on the third line, ala Detroit, but not so sure about him. We'll see. Nothing against Burrows, I'm sure he'll fit in, but there might just be one more guy we need.
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Re: GDT: Canucks host Canes - 6pm - Snet

Postby the Cunning Linguist » Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:48 am

the toucan kid wrote:
Also, Raymond gets his shot with the Sedins.


Not a good fit at all.

This is exactly the same reaction I had when I heard that AV was going to throw Alex Burrows out there with the twins a couple of years ago, and honestly, I had the same reaction when I heard about MayRay with the Twins. Stranger things have happened. I didn't think this trio had much going until the 3rd period. Anyway, let's hope this works for another half dozen games until Burr returns.
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