Island Nucklehead wrote:
LotusBlossom wrote:you honestly think O'brien plays a responsible game? LOL OK ...please explain...from what I saw last year and his PIMs and his antics on ice, I'd hardly call that responsible...but to each their own. I will not relent on O'brien until he can prove that he is more responsible. He had to be held back by teammates last night. If he wasn't restrained ...I highly doubt he would have been 'responsible'.
I think O'Brien has made great strides in his own zone this season. He still takes the odd penalty chasing a hit, but I don't know if anyone realizes that he's expected to be aggressive. If he played passively, he wouldn't be in the league. People here seem to have misguided and downright unrealistic expectations for this guy. He's going to get penalties, some will be deserved, some will be reputation calls, and some (4-min high stick) can happen to anyone. He's not going to be a point-producer, but he will be stable against suitable opposition, and provide safety to his teammates. My point is only that I think Shane is fitting right into his role on the roster.
Giving Avery the stick: Good for Shane. THAT type of play is what he is paid to do. Get in a guys face, call him out and make the mouthpiece back up his words or shut up. Had that penalized us, I might be more inclined to agree with you. That play didn't hurt us at all. It hurt Shane personally, I'm okay with that. He didn't put the team in a detrimental situation.
Times SOB dropped the gloves : 0
Times SOB went to the need of a teammate : 0
Times SOB takes a stupid penalty : Once per game played.
FACT : SOB did take a penalty on the poke. 10 minute misconduct, this'll be the last time I'll say this. The Referees was going to even up the penalties and get someone from the Rangers bench in the box, SOB did his stupid stunt, and the Refs had no choice but to NOT even up the penalties and let the Canucks take a 2minute PK. There was very little point in getting more bodies into the penalty box, when all they have to do is let the PK stand.
I don't know what you consider as toughness, but poking your stick at an opponent on the bench sure isn't. If we pay him for that crap, we might as well hire some guy to sit behind the visitor's bench and dump hot oil on them. SOB is payed to play a simple defensive game, throw hits when there's a chance, and fight. Right now, he has done none. He tries to be Neidermayer when he has the puck, he chases and pinches badly just to throw a hit so he can get a 2 minute break, and he hasn't fought anyone.
Don't type out BS like other team's players got intimidated, when you have Rypien taking on Hal Gill and other really freaking tough mofos, SOB hasn't done anything.
The minute he gets afraid of penalized for starting a fight, is the minute that he is considered worthless to the organization. There were many times in our losses that a fight sure would hold the momentum and maybe give our guys some jump, but he, along with Hordichuk, and Rypien when he's not injuried, haven't done any of that this season.
Who gives a crap if the other guy doesn't want to go, you jump him and he will drop the gloves, and the numbers show that the Refs have called about 50% less instigator penalties this season and last season, VS the first two out of the lock out. TSN showed that.
This signature hates SOB as much as the guy who wrote this signature.