GDT: Rangers visit Canucks, 7:00 PM, TSN, 1040

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GDT: Rangers visit Canucks, 7:00 PM, TSN, 1040

Postby dr.dork » Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:00 pm

Preview here: http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/preview?gid ... 22&prov=ap

It will be another tough one mainly because of the injury situation. Rangers haven't been good on the road and the Canucks have been good at home, but what does that have to do with anything ?

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Re: GDT: Rangers visit Canucks, 7:00 PM, TSN, 1040

Postby Cornuck » Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:20 pm

Injuries or not - I still have a deep hatred of the Rangers - so they better win.

I think teams are going to come in here and expect a win after reading the injury report. The Canucks just have to keep working, and play AV's system.

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Re: GDT: Rangers visit Canucks, 7:00 PM, TSN, 1040

Postby Mikodat » Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:15 pm

Cornuck said:

The Canucks just have to keep working, and play AV's system.


Amen brother.. This looks like a tough one.... Shutting down the Rags with Gaborik and playing a physically tough team against Brashear, Avery etc.. I doubt Hordi can do much against Donald.. and Avery is the superpest of the NHL.. Key will be to stay focussed on a strong defensive game and hoping for good goaltending from Raycroft . Think Bernier is due for a goal... Rangers always have a tough time in the garage so here is a very optimistic ( against all odds ) prediction....

Canucks 2... Kesler and Bernier. Rangers 1 .... Gaborik.. ( yeah I am a dreamer )

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Re: GDT: Rangers visit Canucks, 7:00 PM, TSN, 1040

Postby Linden Is God » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:51 pm

Bieksa as a forward?
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Re: GDT: Rangers visit Canucks, 7:00 PM, TSN, 1040

Postby Ridleyfan » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:50 pm

Is Shane O'Brien REALLY this fucking stupid? I mean, can we have even two games in a row without a stupid-assed, momentum-killing penalty? :evil:
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Re: GDT: Rangers visit Canucks, 7:00 PM, TSN, 1040

Postby woodhog » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:27 pm

Why the hell doesn't SOB just wait till he's on the ice with Avery and beat the piss out of him?
Poking the stick from bench to bench is plain stupid and just asking for a penalty.
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Re: GDT: Rangers visit Canucks, 7:00 PM, TSN, 1040

Postby Jelly » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:28 pm

Intermission TSN talk, more Leafs talk then Canucks talk on a Canucks broadcast, thank god for Ohlund giving the whole Leafs Nation a heart attack. One day, I'll buy CTV, and ban Leafs talk, just you watch, one day.

SOB stupid penalty, x2. I need to keep this copy and pasted or something. Bad luck maybe, but he must be doing something wrong to get bad luck. Thank god it didn't cost us.
How stupid is he to jab the other team's bench with his stick when the refs are STANDING right there. He just cost us another 2 minutes, Ray Ferraro mentioned that the refs was going to even it up but SOB just gave them a reason not to.

SOB stupid antics cost us a goal, and he needs to wake up, or benched, or send to the Moose, or a bullet to the head.
Indirectly, Henrik got hurt from blocking a shot, Mitchell gets hurt on the PK. All because of him being selfish wanting to get at Avery.



Raycroft was solid, and did everything you want a back up to do for you. 3 good games in 4 starts, I'd say he's forgiven for the Anaheim mess, especially he wasn't totally at fault.
Kesler is Kesler, If the C wasn't on Luongo, you bet it would be on Kesler.

And looks like a fire is lit on Bieksa, let's hope he uses this for our future games, this is the KB that all love.
The rest of the crew did their jobs, Pettinger didn't cost us and that's all you can really ask from a 4th liner new signing.
Hordichuk just isn't doing what he's paid to do, where's the fights? Where's the big checks?

Kesler's on pace for 82 point season, Samuelsson is on pace for 41 goal season, Raymond is on pace for 25 goal season.
Can we really ask for more? Henrik's on pace for 35g, shocking.
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Re: GDT: Rangers visit Canucks, 7:00 PM, TSN, 1040

Postby Mikodat » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:06 pm

Hell of a game.. Kesler was superb.. and AV deserves full credit for getting great mileage out of a patched together team.. Great to see the whole team playing a good defensive game. yeah SOB's penalty was dumb... but his play and ballz inspire fear in the opponents - and he is cheap :). Tanner Glass answered the bell nicely in the 3rd, Pettinger makes the 4th line look a bit better.. Bieksa maybe a better forward than defence?? ( thats a wild thought ).. Even Edler played a decent game.. I have hated the rags since 94.. good to see them well beaten..
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Re: GDT: Rangers visit Canucks, 7:00 PM, TSN, 1040

Postby Jelly » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:16 pm

Bieksa, Burrows, Kesler, Raymond, Glass, Rypien, can all play the annoying role better then SOB can. That's why I think SOB doesn't deserve a spot on the roster. A physical vet like Lukowich can do us much better IMO.

This whole D playing wing spot is turning out very well. Having a defensive responsible forward rotating when we are in the defensive zone really helps IMO. And with the way it's going, we could have some success using that to our advantage, as we have 8, 9 including Lukowich down in AHL, NHL defensemen.
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Re: GDT: Rangers visit Canucks, 7:00 PM, TSN, 1040

Postby dr.dork » Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:06 am

Jelly, I know you hate SOB but he hasn't been playing that poorly for a 6th defenseman. I would rather see Bieksa on the wing and O'Brien on defense vs Rome on the wing and Bieksa on D (with O'Brien sitting).

Yes, SOB took a 4 minute penalty but I didn't think it was blatantly stupid, and he is expected to play tough so that is going to happen. The whole incident between the benches..., well Avery was in the middle of that too and could have got a penalty from what I saw. I was at the game so I may have missed something, but that whole altercation involved Bieksa, Burrows, Kesler and O'Brien (at the end) so it is tough to pin anything on O'Brien when the three rats were in it up to the top of their wonderful pointy ears.

NY goal was scored after the penalty was over, and I'm not sure what Bieksa did to get ANOTHER penalty, but he apparently lost his marbles. Not that there is anything wrong with him losing his marbles, he plays better when they're rolling around on the ice. But he needs to play on the edge, as does Burrows and SOB. And after the kerfuffle, we dominated.

Kesler's line was dynamite tonight, and Raymond was very good even though he managed to get no points for playing significant parts of 2 goals. I thought Henrik's line played well tonight as well.
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Re: GDT: Rangers visit Canucks, 7:00 PM, TSN, 1040

Postby trouble » Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:21 am

SOB bashing contiunes..

SOB is one of the most popular players on the team.. His teammates love him..
There is so much that we don't see that is so important to winning hockey..

One thing we do see is how SOB sticks up for his teammates
Another thing we do see is SOB making The Canucks D a tough Defence to play against.
If you're in front of the net your gonna get wacked. If you're in the corner, You can hear SOB footsteps. These type of player take penelties but his teammates don't mind working hard to Kill them.

We see in so many games he is there talking to the other teams players saying.. Ya wanna go.. Shaking his gloves to show he wants to drop them.. and 99% of the time the other player backs off..

The Canucks are a very tough team, SOB is a very important part of it.. Now give the guy a break
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Re: GDT: Rangers visit Canucks, 7:00 PM, TSN, 1040

Postby Jelly » Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:45 am

dr.dork wrote:Jelly, I know you hate SOB but he hasn't been playing that poorly for a 6th defenseman. I would rather see Bieksa on the wing and O'Brien on defense vs Rome on the wing and Bieksa on D (with O'Brien sitting).

Yes, SOB took a 4 minute penalty but I didn't think it was blatantly stupid, and he is expected to play tough so that is going to happen. The whole incident between the benches..., well Avery was in the middle of that too and could have got a penalty from what I saw. I was at the game so I may have missed something, but that whole altercation involved Bieksa, Burrows, Kesler and O'Brien (at the end) so it is tough to pin anything on O'Brien when the three rats were in it up to the top of their wonderful pointy ears.


SOB was checking, and he wasn't careful with his stick, take a look at the replay, it was just not careful. Stupid penalties that are far from your net. The Refs were discussing penalties in front of the benches, and AV was trying to get them to even it up as Gaborik was the one that started it. SOB was trash talking with Avery and decided to start poking him with his stick, which is just plain stupid.

NY goal was scored after the penalty was over, and I'm not sure what Bieksa did to get ANOTHER penalty, but he apparently lost his marbles. Not that there is anything wrong with him losing his marbles, he plays better when they're rolling around on the ice. But he needs to play on the edge, as does Burrows and SOB. And after the kerfuffle, we dominated.


Bieksa got the penalty for trash talking basically. SOB doesn't muck it up like the others, he takes stupid penalties on the other end of the ice. SOB hasn't fought once this season, he doesn't play hard minutes and he doesn't answer the bell. SOB tries to dangle and stuff, why can't he play a simpler game?

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If toughness is the only thing that SOB can bring, then we could easily find someone else to do that job.
Fact : He hasn't gotten into one fight, he plays third pairing minutes, he causes us more trouble then he helps.

No one on the team is going to come out and say, this SOB causes trouble for our team and we hate him.
Wait for a few games and let's see how many AV sits him?
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Re: GDT: Rangers visit Canucks, 7:00 PM, TSN, 1040

Postby LotusBlossom » Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:43 am

Jelly wrote:Intermission TSN talk, more Leafs talk then Canucks talk on a Canucks broadcast, thank god for Ohlund giving the whole Leafs Nation a heart attack. One day, I'll buy CTV, and ban Leafs talk, just you watch, one day.

SOB stupid penalty, x2. I need to keep this copy and pasted or something. Bad luck maybe, but he must be doing something wrong to get bad luck. Thank god it didn't cost us.
How stupid is he to jab the other team's bench with his stick when the refs are STANDING right there. He just cost us another 2 minutes, Ray Ferraro mentioned that the refs was going to even it up but SOB just gave them a reason not to.

SOB stupid antics cost us a goal, and he needs to wake up, or benched, or send to the Moose, or a bullet to the head.
Indirectly, Henrik got hurt from blocking a shot, Mitchell gets hurt on the PK. All because of him being selfish wanting to get at Avery.



Raycroft was solid, and did everything you want a back up to do for you. 3 good games in 4 starts, I'd say he's forgiven for the Anaheim mess, especially he wasn't totally at fault.
Kesler is Kesler, If the C wasn't on Luongo, you bet it would be on Kesler.

And looks like a fire is lit on Bieksa, let's hope he uses this for our future games, this is the KB that all love.
The rest of the crew did their jobs, Pettinger didn't cost us and that's all you can really ask from a 4th liner new signing.
Hordichuk just isn't doing what he's paid to do, where's the fights? Where's the big checks?

Kesler's on pace for 82 point season, Samuelsson is on pace for 41 goal season, Raymond is on pace for 25 goal season.
Can we really ask for more? Henrik's on pace for 35g, shocking.


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Re: GDT: Rangers visit Canucks, 7:00 PM, TSN, 1040

Postby Island Nucklehead » Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:59 am

I'm with Dork on the SOB thing... everyone needs their whipping boy, and it seems like around here it's O'Brien. That penalty happens to anyone else and it's "well that'll happen with a composite stick in a contact sport". When it's SOB, all of a sudden its a blatant, bone-headed purposeful crosscheck to the teeth. Settle down folks, that play happens every game.

Jelly, are you SERIOUSLY blaming Henrik taking that shot on SOB? Really? LOL to that one. Why don't you blame AV for having one of our three or four talented guys left killing penalties (ie where's Pettinger, Rypien, Hordichuck, Glass, Burrows, Bernier etc) Maybe try blaming cancer on the guy, or H1N1... people would really get after him then! BTW, O'Brien didn't put us shorthanded poking Avery. He got a 10 minute misconduct. You should be thrilled, he only took himself off the ice for a dime.

The refs realllly bunked that mini-brawl up. How one team can go 10-7, with two guys taking on Bieksa, and come out on the PP is beyond me. Watching the replay pissed me off even more... what did Keslerl do, exactly? Riiiight. And giving Bieksa two for trash talking? Really? Wonder what Avery was saying on the bench. It doesn't really matter because won, but what a crock of shit.

I guess if people are having meltdowns over SOB's incidental high-stick that has to be considered a good thing, if that's the worst thing there is to bitch about...
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Re: GDT: Rangers visit Canucks, 7:00 PM, TSN, 1040

Postby Cornuck » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:38 am

interesting random stat - Kesler is currently 20th in league scoring.
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