GDT: Canucks host the Wild - 7PM - CBC-HD

This forum is to discuss game day happenings. New threads will be posted for each game.

Moderator: Referees

Re: GDT: Canucks host the Wild - 7PM - CBC-HD

Postby Jelly » Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:38 pm

I don't know how you can justify Grabner > Raymond, Raymond's the one that doesn't back out from Physical contact and actually tries to back check. Remember, Grabner is #40, Raymond is #21.

Malik had some insane +/- that one year. remember?

+/- isn't a great indicator unless everyone plays against the same opposition.

If we control the play through out the game, it's fine for Luongo to be seemed as 2nd best goalie in the game, because, face it, we aren't going to score on every shot, but if we take 40 shots and score 3, the other goalie will still be looked as having a great game.
This signature hates SOB as much as the guy who wrote this signature.
Jelly
CC Hall of Fan Member
 
Posts: 1130
Joined: Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:20 am

Re: GDT: Canucks host the Wild - 7PM - CBC-HD

Postby Tciso » Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:27 pm

Jelly wrote:Henrik with out Daniel is just lost. I hope our secondary guys pick up enough to not dig us a huge hole.


5 points in 3 games is "just lost"? I am surprisingly comfortable with that. Hank does need a few games to get used to having to think where his winger will be instead of just knowing, but, he's doing fine so far.
The Cup is soooooo ours!!!!!!!
User avatar
Tciso
CC 1st Team All-Star
 
Posts: 937
Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:44 am

Re: GDT: Canucks host the Wild - 7PM - CBC-HD

Postby Island Nucklehead » Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:38 pm

Mikodat wrote:
Raymond has the worst shot on the Canucks.. 23 shots on net and 1 goes in?? Most of his shots are still from the outside. Even Bernier has better finish...


I agree that Raymond needs to work on his shot. But you'd have to be blind and senile to not be impressed at the amount of chances he generated vs. the Wild. Certainly a more effective game than Grabner. His lone move seems to be to try and go five-hole shovel... but if he can continue to create chances he'll get more goals.

Edler has the worst +/- on the team and even in the win last night he managed to be on the ice for the Wild goal and did nothing to stop it..


Yeah, cuz you can blame Edler for a pass banking in off Wellwood's skate...

Yeah he played better last night.. but was still the second best goaltender on the ice, as he has in nearly all of the first 7 games..


The better team won. That was the story of the game. Luongo made the saves he had to, especially at the end, and while Backstrom was fantastic, the lone goal Lou let it wasn't exactly a bad goal. I guess you want a shutout to be satisfied... keep in mind, his save percentage was only .004% worse than Backstrom. (.944 v .948)
User avatar
Island Nucklehead
CC Legend
 
Posts: 4033
Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:27 pm

Re: GDT: Canucks host the Wild - 7PM - CBC-HD

Postby Mikodat » Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:53 pm

I agree that Raymond needs to work on his shot. But you'd have to be blind and senile to not be impressed at the amount of chances he generated vs. the Wild.


I am very impressed by Raymonds speed and ability.. but not by his shooting ability or his lack of passing .. Comparing him to Grabner ... ? ... AHL against NHL??? ..

Yeah, cuz you can blame Edler for a pass banking in off Wellwood's skate...


No , but I can blame him for not getting back in time to check the shooter.. why was Wellwod there ? However I concede I am a little down on Edler.. 2 seasons ago I thought he would be a top 2 dman..

Jelly your arguement about opposition would be valid. except for 1 small thing.. No other Dman has anywhere near the bad +/- that Edler has... and most play against better opps lines.. look at the stats .. Willie Mitchell? Salo?? ( not there now.. ) Bieksa.. Erhoff are usually on the ice against opps first lines..
Nuck fan Since 1970 and still no Cup :(
User avatar
Mikodat
CC 1st Team All-Star
 
Posts: 604
Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:58 am
Location: Victoria

Re: GDT: Canucks host the Wild - 7PM - CBC-HD

Postby Jelly » Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:45 pm

I don't know what you watch, but it was always Mitchell/Salo for top defensive assignment. Heck, I'd have Edler/Bieksa ahead of Erhroff.

The thing is, shit happens. We are going into games down 0-1 every game cause of the bad bounce goal on us every game. And Edler isn't doing much offensively, add both together and you will have a bad +/-. I'm not saying he's not playing bad, I'm saying he's not playing as bad, as you think.

Grabner career NHL goals vs Raymond career NHL goals, when these two numbers match, then you can start talking about how Grabner > Raymond. Until then, Grabner is still on the fence leaning towards bust.
This signature hates SOB as much as the guy who wrote this signature.
Jelly
CC Hall of Fan Member
 
Posts: 1130
Joined: Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:20 am

Re: GDT: Canucks host the Wild - 7PM - CBC-HD

Postby LotusBlossom » Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:23 pm

I know the boys won but that had to be one of the most boring games I've ever had to witness.

I don't there was enough beer at GM Place to get me out of my coma.

:?
Didn't you know?I'm Front Page news! ;)
User avatar
LotusBlossom
Moderator & MVP
Moderator & MVP
 
Posts: 2448
Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:53 pm
Location: Metro Vancouver

Re: GDT: Canucks host the Wild - 7PM - CBC-HD

Postby Island Nucklehead » Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:40 am

LotusBlossom wrote:I know the boys won but that had to be one of the most boring games I've ever had to witness.

I don't there was enough beer at GM Place to get me out of my coma.

:?


We're going to have to get used to it. Considering our top 6 (Sedin, Burrows, Samuelson, Kesler, Raymond, Grabner) has 344 goals in 1,878 games, offense is going to be at a premium. We're just going to have to hope that we can hold the fort until Daniel (at least) is back.
User avatar
Island Nucklehead
CC Legend
 
Posts: 4033
Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:27 pm

Re: GDT: Canucks host the Wild - 7PM - CBC-HD

Postby the toucan kid » Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:11 pm

We're going to have to get used to it. Considering our top 6 (Sedin, Burrows, Samuelson, Kesler, Raymond, Grabner) has 344 goals in 1,878 games, offense is going to be at a premium. We're just going to have to hope that we can hold the fort until Daniel (at least) is back.


Get used to it? We're old farts by now at this game.
User avatar
the toucan kid
CC Legend
 
Posts: 3838
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:50 am

Previous

Return to Game Day Forum

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest