GDT: Oct 10: Canucks at Detroit- 11 AM - CITYTV

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Re: GDT: Oct 10: Canucks at Detroit- 11 AM - CITYTV

Post by Mondi » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:16 pm

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Post by RoyalDude » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:17 pm

Worst game of the season by the Sedins
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Re: GDT: Oct 10: Canucks at Detroit- 11 AM - CITYTV

Post by Per » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:19 pm

Never mind. :|

Well, at least they made the last few minutes interesting.
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Re: GDT: Oct 10: Canucks at Detroit- 11 AM - CITYTV

Post by Reefer2 » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:19 pm

RoyalDude wrote:Worst game of the season by the Sedins
That I agree with you, what a crap pass attempt that was.

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Post by Island Nucklehead » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:20 pm

RoyalDude wrote:Worst game of the season by the Sedins
You're probably not going to win too many when Matthias and Vey are your best players.

Too many passengers, they let the wings control too much of the offensive zone, and coupled with some bad bounces that was all she wrote.

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Re: GDT: Oct 10: Canucks at Detroit- 11 AM - CITYTV

Post by SKYO » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:23 pm

Sbisa basically with the GWG for Detroit.

Special teams controlled the beginning of the game, some missed calls on both teams nonetheless the team has to start a little better, time to load the locker room with energy drinks and extra strong coffee for these early games.

Miller played well.

We out-shot em.

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Post by Hockey Widow » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:28 pm

Only saw the third period so I can't really comment on how we played. But the one thing I wonder is about starting goalies. Now overall I am happy with Miller but Lack had a pretty good season last year all things considered. Under AV and Torts they employed a more analytical approach a lot more in selecting the starter. A game like today, with Miller's career record against Detroit and a morning game, we would have seen CS and Lack get the starts, in their respective years with us.

There have been several games where we lost and gave up four or more goals where I thought the same thing, start Lack. I know Miller was coming off back to back SO so that speaks volumes but in reality he never stole those games. He played good solid positioning and made key saves when he had to. Again today that fourth goal was a killer, never saw the three before that so I don't know about those.

I would like to get Lack in more than we have seen. In fairness, since I only saw the third, i don't want to come across as blaming Miller. Others can comment on that. Just overall I'd like to see us get Lack in more, for now and for the future.
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Post by griz » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:33 pm

Detroit looked good early. But they had puck luck and officiating on their side. Canucks nearly pulled it off though, and I'm happy with that push at the end of the game. Just wondering where it was earlier...?

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Post by Island Nucklehead » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:40 pm

Hockey Widow wrote: A game like today, with Miller's career record against Detroit and a morning game, we would have seen CS and Lack get the starts, in their respective years with us.
I have no problem starting Miller in this game. He doesn't play for Buffalo anymore, so I don't see how his career record is totally relevant. Lack hasn't been good this year. I think WD's thought process was that Miller is our better goalie, who is clearly playing well lately, against one of the league's better teams, and he gives us the best chance to win.

Part of the problem I had with the Gillis era was their tendency to overthink things. If it was starting goalies, flight timings, sleep patterns whatever. They tried to outsmart too many problems, where often times in sports the simplest solution is the best.

The fourth goal was a tough one, looked like it clipped our d-man's pants and dipped in. Not sure he saw it. At the end of the day those are the kinds of bounces that lead to crippling goals. At the other end, puck off the boards, hits Howard but stays out. There was also the Bonino own-goal that wouldn't have gone in if he wasn't there. Tough game for Miller.

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Post by Hockey Widow » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:45 pm

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Tough game for Miller.
Fair enough IN. I would still like to see Lack get more starts. From the sounds of it though we didn't really show up until the third. Hard to win when that's the case.
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Post by Mondi » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:51 pm

I would't pin this on Miller. I wouldn't pin this on the refs. But, both contributed significantly to the game.

The reality is we cannot win every game. We also have trouble in early games, and in games at the Joe.

We've had a terrific start and this one did not look very good. That said, it was there for the taking. The last goal was lucky and the Sbisa own goal was lucky.

This is a loss I don't mind because the fight was there, and they went down guns blazing.

What is starting to bug me is that that this team is probably one solid dman (perhaps just Hammer) and one sniper away from being pretty damn interesting. But, this may not be the year to load up.
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Post by RoyalDude » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:54 pm

I see no reason to fault Miller in this one. The players in front of him phoned it in

Never mind how lifeless the Sedin line was tonight, where was Boninos line?
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Post by Island Nucklehead » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:57 pm

Mondi wrote: What is starting to bug me is that that this team is probably one solid dman (perhaps just Hammer) and one sniper away from being pretty damn interesting. But, this may not be the year to load up.
Yeah that second line is still enigmatic. If it wasn't for the third and fourth lines stepping up in recent weeks it could be a different story. Another bonafide second line winger would really help broaden the threat up front. Higgins would be an elite third liner.

As it is, Mondi is correct: we can't win them all. The effort was certainly there, I just don't think the execution or talent level was capable of matching the Wings in this one.

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Post by RoyalDude » Sun Nov 30, 2014 4:01 pm

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Mondi wrote: What is starting to bug me is that that this team is probably one solid dman (perhaps just Hammer) and one sniper away from being pretty damn interesting. But, this may not be the year to load up.
Yeah that second line is still enigmatic. If it wasn't for the third and fourth lines stepping up in recent weeks it could be a different story. Another bonafide second line winger would really help broaden the threat up front. Higgins would be an elite third liner.

As it is, Mondi is correct: we can't win them all. The effort was certainly there, I just don't think the execution or talent level was capable of matching the Wings in this one.
Yeah Burrows age really shows some nights and Higgins is still not a bonafide top 6. This where our weakness will show in the playoffs where the intensity ramps up. Higgins always disappears come the playoffs cause he doesn't have that gear.
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Re: GDT: Oct 10: Canucks at Detroit- 11 AM - CITYTV

Post by Mondi » Sun Nov 30, 2014 4:14 pm

I wouldn't mind trading Burrows (as part of a package) only because the poor guy will never ever get a break or call in the NHL again. I think he's a fantastic Canuck and don't want to see him go pre se, but if he could be replaced or upgraded with a guy minus the rep, it could be helpful.

That said, his salary probably precludes it.

I suppose if we can accept a winger as a "salary dump" ala Christian Erhoff that could be the answer to question of the trying to win now without giving up a prospect.

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