GDT: Nov 17 STARS @ CANUCKS - 5:00 PT SNET-P

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Re: GDT: Nov 17 STARS @ CANUCKS - 5:00 PT SNET-P

Postby SKYO » Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:15 am

Benjo wrote:Our D (most d) have a hell of a time with power moves to the front of the net, I wouldn't be upset to see kassian trying this rather than passing every time.

Garrison's outlet passes suck

The team is doing a lot of little things right but screwing up the big things I.e. scoring.


It's funny our defense has a good offense all round, but no true offensive qb dman, never had one since Ehrhoff left, it'd be nice to acquire one like Campbell/Streit etc.

But for status quo purposes (ie the Mike Gillis way), Torts should bench Garrison and use Weber.
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Re: GDT: Nov 17 STARS @ CANUCKS - 5:00 PT SNET-P

Postby Hockey Widow » Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:16 am

First, Booth looks like his speed is missing and he looks laboured. At times his stride looks tentative. I think he is playing injured, not making excuses because I too have tired of Davey just saying what I notice out there.

Our game rests on scoring, pretty simple really. Our 5-5 play is good except for our finish. Our PK is excellent. Our PP sucks. Our D is fine, a few brain farts and for some reason costly ones. But overall I do like the way we are playing just don't like the final result, duh, really!

I don't think the Santorelli experiment is over. But I do think it helps having Kesler back at centre. I also like Kassian's game right now. He isn't getting the points for sure, but then who is? I just like what I see from him.

We must, must find a fix for our PP. if we could do that we would be getting a shit load more points. I mean we score two PP goals last night and still manage to lose 2-1. Crazy is as crazy gets. :mrgreen:


Another frustrating loss and unfortunately no loser point.
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Re: GDT: Nov 17 STARS @ CANUCKS - 5:00 PT SNET-P

Postby Topper » Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:22 am

A few comments;

Get the feeling you've watched games 9 and 10 of a ten game loosing streak? Oh but but for a bounce or two....

Henrik with another Todd moment.

Kari should have had two for slashing and the delayed penalty called off due to a goal being scored ..... oh well, I've been told in the long run these things even out.

Ooooow the creativity
Dan-Hank-Burr
Higs-Kes-Booth/Zach
Hansen-Santo-Booth/Zach

Santorelli reminding the naysayers of Raymond

Richardson reminding all why he isn't in LA.
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Re: GDT: Nov 17 STARS @ CANUCKS - 5:00 PT SNET-P

Postby Arachnid » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:54 am

Topper wrote:A few comments;

Get the feeling you've watched games 9 and 10 of a ten game loosing streak? Oh but but for a bounce or two....

Henrik with another Todd moment.

Kari should have had two for slashing and the delayed penalty called off due to a goal being scored ..... oh well, I've been told in the long run these things even out.

Ooooow the creativity
Dan-Hank-Burr
Higs-Kes-Booth/Zach
Hansen-Santo-Booth/Zach

Santorelli reminding the naysayers of Raymond

Richardson reminding all why he isn't in LA.


It is wot tit is..eh?!

...a playoff team...

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Re: GDT: Nov 17 STARS @ CANUCKS - 5:00 PT SNET-P

Postby herb » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:16 pm

Didn't get to watch this one, but sounds like yet another game we played well enough to win, should have won but couldn't find a way.

That makes seven games (Montreal, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Phoenix, Anaheim, San Jose and Dallas) this season that can be classified this way. That's a lot of points! Is this a worrisome trend or just a bump in the road?
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Re: GDT: Nov 17 STARS @ CANUCKS - 5:00 PT SNET-P

Postby Hockey Widow » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:51 pm

herb wrote:Didn't get to watch this one, but sounds like yet another game we played well enough to win, should have won but couldn't find a way.

That makes seven games (Montreal, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Phoenix, Anaheim, San Jose and Dallas) this season that can be classified this way. That's a lot of points! Is this a worrisome trend or just a bump in the road?


Hard to say. The last two years we won a lot of games, or got loser points in games, where we showed up for 20-40 minutes. Games we had no business getting points in.

This year there have only been a handful go games we were truly out of. We have, as you point out, failed to win or get points in games where we were the better team. It all comes back to scoring. Lack of goal scoring and a abysmal PP are our downfall thus far. Our PK and 5-5 we are ok, except for scoring that is.

So while the record is disappointing it is easy to see that we are not in a free fall. It is the finish we need to somehow find. I'm going to go with it being a bump in the road. The talent we have is capable of scoring and it is in essence the same group minus Ehrhoff who once were top 3 on the PP. if we can start scoring in gat a top 5 PP pace and get a little more 5-5 scoring we will be right there.

However, I'm not convinced this translates into us being a top playoff team.
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Re: GDT: Nov 17 STARS @ CANUCKS - 5:00 PT SNET-P

Postby RoyalDude » Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:08 pm

SKYO wrote:
But for status quo purposes (ie the Mike Gillis way), Torts should bench Garrison and use Weber.


Didn't we fire AV for not playing Garrison on the PP?
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Re: GDT: Nov 17 STARS @ CANUCKS - 5:00 PT SNET-P

Postby Hockey Widow » Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:12 pm

Besides, Weber has been waived now that Dale is back.
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Re: GDT: Nov 17 STARS @ CANUCKS - 5:00 PT SNET-P

Postby herb » Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:21 am

Hockey Widow wrote:Hard to say. The last two years we won a lot of games, or got loser points in games, where we showed up for 20-40 minutes. Games we had no business getting points in.

This year there have only been a handful go games we were truly out of. We have, as you point out, failed to win or get points in games where we were the better team. It all comes back to scoring. Lack of goal scoring and a abysmal PP are our downfall thus far. Our PK and 5-5 we are ok, except for scoring that is.

So while the record is disappointing it is easy to see that we are not in a free fall. It is the finish we need to somehow find. I'm going to go with it being a bump in the road. The talent we have is capable of scoring and it is in essence the same group minus Ehrhoff who once were top 3 on the PP. if we can start scoring in gat a top 5 PP pace and get a little more 5-5 scoring we will be right there.

However, I'm not convinced this translates into us being a top playoff team.


Good analysis, which I largely agree with. This isn’t a championship caliber team, in my opinion.

It’s nice to see the team putting in that effort night in and night out. All things being considered, if this is a bit of a skid, going 2-2-2 over six games certainly isn’t the sort of bad streak we’ll even remember at season’s end. That being said, making a habit of losing games we should win is not good.

The PP continues to be the puzzle. At this point I would be splitting up the units. Hank on one unit with Dank and Kesler on the other.
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