GDT: Wild @ Canucks, 7pm, Oct, 26, SPAC

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Re: GDT: Wild @ Canucks, 7pm, Oct, 26, SPAC

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VAN- 2-1- PPG:- Alex Chiasson (2) Deflected, -assists: Elias Pettersson (3), -Quinn Hughes (4)- 10:46- 2nd---- https://streamable.com/4tw8sx

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MIN---- 30---- 21----- 0/2-------- 45.5%
VAN---- 24---- 22----- 1/3---------54.5%



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Hockey Widow wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:09 pm Finally watched the game. Right from the start, at player introductions, I could immediately see what the problem is. We dont have enough Canadian heart. We have plenty of American heart but we all know when it comes to hockey you need Canadian heart.

Enough said.
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Post Game Travis Green 6;42 min.
Travis Green didn’t have an update on Jason Dickinson. He also said Tucker Poolman left the game with an upper body injury.
Green on the Wild: "They got a good team. They have four good lines, they can skate, they're quicker than they were last year. I think we lacked some foot speed tonight."
Green on Justin Bailey: "I liked his game tonight. He gives us a bigger body and some speed. We put him right into the fire and I think he had a good night."
Green on Pettersson: "I thought his game was average tonight."
“Tight-checking game. Didn’t create a lot. We didn’t capitalize on a couple that we’d like to…Sometimes it’s a difference between 1-2 mistakes in these tight games.”
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Post Game; Bo Horvat 6:48 min.
"We want our identity to be hard to play against and we want to be tight defensively."
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Re: GDT: Wild @ Canucks, 7pm, Oct, 26, SPAC

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5thhorseman wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:23 pm
Meds wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:42 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:10 pm WTF! Wasn't Cuz supposed to start this GDT after the last win? Do we need to sacrifice someone now?
I believe Topper's "Fred. Fuck off." was the required sacrifice.
And yet there he is, tempting fate by boasting of the Canucks home opener streak.
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This Canucks team simply cannot defend, and it is mostly due to the forwards (our centres have shit for a 200’ game) and the coaching. If this is all we are getting from Miller and Petey then Houston we got a problem
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:05 am This Canucks team simply cannot defend, and it is mostly due to the forwards (our centres have shit for a 200’ game) and the coaching. If this is all we are getting from Miller and Petey then Houston we got a problem
Miller is playing the exact same game NY and TB saw and ultimately deemed expendable, except he's in more offensive situations, allowing him to pile up a few more points. Pettersson isn't getting the room, teams have figured out he has no answer to the pressure game, and he can't make plays at high speed and combine that with being physically weak, it's a good thing they didn't sign him to an 8 x $9 mil contract or they very well might have been buying that sucker out halfway into it.

Coaching is the biggest problem. How many more players are they going to cycle through before management gets it? They've bled chances every year he's been here, relying on stellar goaltending, and after trading their past two 1st round draft picks, appear no closer to the playoffs than they were when he took over.
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Curmudgeon wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:33 am
Miller is playing the exact same game NY and TB saw and ultimately deemed expendable, except he's in more offensive situations, allowing him to pile up a few more points. Pettersson isn't getting the room, teams have figured out he has no answer to the pressure game, and he can't make plays at high speed and combine that with being physically weak, it's a good thing they didn't sign him to an 8 x $9 mil contract or they very well might have been buying that sucker out halfway into it.

Coaching is the biggest problem. How many more players are they going to cycle through before management gets it? They've bled chances every year he's been here, relying on stellar goaltending, and after trading their past two 1st round draft picks, appear no closer to the playoffs than they were when he took over.
I think coaching is the big problem. Travis talks the talk on the interviews but it doesn't seem the players are even getting their own roles straight.
It's hit and miss from game to game. Truthfully, I think TG is an AHL coach.

Miller is a surly dude much of the time. It's his thing but he can still help turn the inconsistency around. It's not so much Petey isn't getting as much room as it is him not making it through his own creativity. Guess it's going to take time but right now, he's far too stationary. Boeser is far from his best as well. A plenitude of players were, for the most part, ineffective vs the Wild. Even Garland was pretty quiet.

Oh well. Should have probably expected this for the first game at home. Players distracted somewhat.
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Whoa...Curmy....duuude.....one loss does not equal a catastrophic failure event.

They looked like shit. They didn't skate. They didn't even have one fucking hit on that defense...yet still they were right there.

Turn the page and evaluate over a decent period of time, not on how poorly they played against a team that was all pumped up to avenge the playoff rubbishing this same group laid on them.

Van looked disinterested, ineffective and probably weren't even close to prepared.

Turn the page, look forward to Thursday
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We started out ok with a lot of hustle, winning puck battles, outskating the wild - them 5 minutes in we get a penalty and it all went to shit.

Then we did our usual 'too little, too late' to wrap up the game after the Horvat goal and showed some effort. In between that, we we were outworked for 50 minutes.

Like others have said, we're a good team 'on paper' - but 'on ice', we seem to be lacking in quite a few areas. A lot of seems mental. I'm usually a big Boeser fan, but watching him stand there after a missed shots pissed me off. Sorry kid, you don't get paid millions of dollars to stand around and watch the other team score. EP40 - I'm not seeing much of anything like the kid we saw in his first season. Yes - he's missed a lot of hockey, but shouldn't a natural talent show some flashes here and there? When Justin Bailey is the guy I keep noticing in a game, something's wrong.

With that said, the first game back after a long road trip is usually a shitshow for this team, so we'll see if they get their shit together for Thursday's game.

It's early in the season, and there's no reason to panic just yet - but it's time for us to start seeing the team 'on ice' resemble the team 'on paper'.
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Cousin Strawberry wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:09 am Whoa...Curmy....duuude.....one loss does not equal a catastrophic failure event.

They looked like shit. They didn't skate. They didn't even have one fucking hit on that defense...yet still they were right there.

Turn the page and evaluate over a decent period of time, not on how poorly they played against a team that was all pumped up to avenge the playoff rubbishing this same group laid on them.

Van looked disinterested, ineffective and probably weren't even close to prepared.

Turn the page, look forward to Thursday
One loss? Where have you been for the last four years? Their wins this season have been against Philly, who were let down by poor goaltending, and the winless Blackhawks and Seattle who both outshot and outplayed the Canucks 5 on 5 and were Demko'd. Stumbling to an ugly 3-2-1 trip result was the worst way they could have started, it gives them a temporary out in pointing to a record rather than looking at the circumstances and "hows" of it, just as some fans and media are also doing, but you can only do that for so long before they have to play better teams with better goaltending. We'll see how they do against a motivated Flyers team, the Oilers, and improving Rangers.

How many players are actually left on either team from the playoffs the season before last? How much longer should the team be prepared to just look forward to the next game without difference making changes? Miller has been the odd man out in cap moves twice now, that's fact, and Pettersson appears to have plateaued, to put it kindly, now that teams are taking away his time and space. Can Pettersson turn the corner? Sure, he has the talent, but can he in this environment under Green? The answer isn't changing more players or trading more high draft picks, it's getting a coach who can put structure in place and adapt to the evolving game dynamics on the fly.

But, yeah, there's always the next game.
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So you're convinced that this team is total rubbish and any win they get is not so much their good play but the opposition being the shits????

You say the team that beat the wild, blues and almost the VGKs is all but gone?

Come on man! (read it in Joe Bidens voice)


The core is what turns the wheels and they're all here and underperforming yet still remaining competitive (mostly). They're struggling and it sucks to endure but at least theyre collecting some wins here and there while they figure it out.


BTW...Pettersson has not been "figured out" by the opposition...he's slumping. Nothing more, nothing less. He will find his game
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So sluggish they looked like they all got nooners from their wive, girlfriends, mistresses and concubines.
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:05 am If this is all we are getting from Miller and Petey then Houston we got a problem
Don't be ridiculous. Obviously the fruits of a genius use of two first round draft picks will be cornerstones of a championship team.

Just like Virtanen and Juolevi.
Curmudgeon wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:33 am Miller is playing the exact same game NY and TB saw and ultimately deemed expendable, except he's in more offensive situations, allowing him to pile up a few more points. Pettersson isn't getting the room, teams have figured out he has no answer to the pressure game, and he can't make plays at high speed and combine that with being physically weak, it's a good thing they didn't sign him to an 8 x $9 mil contract or they very well might have been buying that sucker out halfway into it.
Well, I suppose that's theoretically possible... :whistle:
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Topper wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:29 am So sluggish they looked like they all got nooners from their wive, girlfriends, mistresses and concubines.
They weren't solid enough to get the job done. It'll get better as the home stand continues.
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Micky wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:33 am
Topper wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:29 am So sluggish they looked like they all got nooners from their wive, girlfriends, mistresses and concubines.
They weren't solid enough to get the job done. It'll get better harder as the home stand continues.
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