It's not a strength issue so much as it is a physiology and flexibility issue. Lou is "bow-legged", Cory is not. For Lou to actually go into the butterfly and get his pads to rotate out along the ice is next to impossible without him falling forward. What's remarkable is how good he actually is despite this disadvantage.Rumsfeld wrote:It was painfully obvious who the better goaltender was throughout the season last year. Schneider looked faster, better positioned, and way more efficient coming across the net. His legs are probably twice as quick as Lou's going into tthe butterfly and he can actually stay upright when he kicks out a low shot due to his superior strength.
Still waiting to see what this incredible gap is. How about we wait and compare them after they have both played a full season.Rummy wrote: You guys act like there's no difference beteen Cory and Lou, but there is actually a considerable gap between them. And guess what? That gap is only going to get exponentially WIDER as Cory continues to improve and Lou continues to decline. I would way rather be paying a truly elite Cory 6 mill in two years than an average-at-best Luongo 5.3 in four years.
After the 2011 SCF, Andrew Raycroft would have challenged for the starting role. Lou was emotionally up and down, the fans had completely turned on him, and now Mrs. Lou was spending almost all of her time in Florida (allegedly). Cory was in his second season as the full-time backup and his first season had been outstanding, he shared the Jennings with Lou. He fared little better than Luongo that year in the few playoff minutes he saw, and come 2012 everyone wanted Schneider in net because of "the meltdowns". So we saw Schneider 8 more times, and then he took the reigns in the playoffs despite the fact that everyone short of the Luonfreudeists could see that Louie had been the best player on the ice for Vancouver through games 1 and 2. You are right about that being when he wanted out. Cory in no way "stole the job" from Luongo. Vigneault just decided to give it to him.....and at this point every player decision that AV made doesn't really hold much weight.Rummy wrote: Cory was so remarkably good that he firmly supplanted an elite goalie with a lifetime contract by simply being so much better that our coach and GM had no choice but to admit he was the man. The original plan was to keep Lou and develop and trade Cory, but his awesomeness forced them to change that plan and shop Luongo. Now suddenly the CC Bountifulites want to claim Cory only won the starter job because Lou wanted out, which is a total joke. Lou didn't want out until Cory took his fucking job.
I think you exaggerate here. Schneider looked to be the real deal. No question. I think we all wanted him to stay, and I don't think anyone here would dispute that. This is plan B that we are seeing right now, but really it's not like plan B stands for "backup". Luongo is still a VERY good goaltender, actually he's still an elite goaltender in all likelihood. If anyone thinks that we would have been better off going the way we have gone even though Lou could have gotten us the same return.....they need psych exam.Rummy wrote: It's the same bullshit this board pulled after the Hodgson trade. A kid you were all creaming your underoos about is suddenly not very good and we're lucky to be rid of him.
I haven't seen that one yet. Someone actually thinks Torts is going to turn Luongo around? Pfffft.....better quote that.Rummy wrote: And holy LOFL at you clowns who are blaming AV for Luongo's playoff suckage and think Torts is going to somehow hop in the crease himself and save the day. Wishful think much? Yeah AV should've yanked him earlier a couple times, but saying Luongo, at 35, is going to be a "much different goaltender" under Torts is flat-out styrofoam-helmet-on-the-bus retarded. What's he gonna do, yell at Lou to be "stiffer" in net? Christ, they'll be walking on eggshells around him for the next year or two.
Personally I do think that Torts might be able to turn around Luongo's attitude towards playing in Vancouver. I also think Tortorella can turn the team in front of Luongo into something a little more competitive and accountable. The only thing that might turn Lou's play around in all of this is his competitive drive and penchant for taking everything so damned personally.