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Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:55 am
by ukcanuck
Whats fucked up is the Bernier and luongo are worth the same in trade value? Bernier more so since that trade got done.

I'd sure like to see that decision bite the cheeseburgler right on the ass.

Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:05 am
by dbr
Meds wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:Keep Luongo. Let him refuse to report then we can suspend him. Problem solved :mrgreen:
He will still count against the cap....
I assume you're thinking of Tim Thomas, who counted no matter what because he'd signed his deal after turning 35.

Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:16 am
by $lacker
There have been some rumblings that Luongo could be "Tort's Guy", although its all clearly conjecture at this point.

However, if Gillis truly believes that there is a 2-3 year window to win with this group I would have no problems keeping Lu around to take the majority of the starts and bring another young goalie in to mentor under him (Eriksson or Lack). Especially if we could get a nice package of assets back for 35.

Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:23 am
by dbr
If Luongo is Tortorella's guy and Tortorella is Aquilini's guy then let's just fire Gillis, trade Schneider for the best eyetalian we can get and be done with it. :lol:

Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:42 am
by CFP!
You'd think they would have discussed this prior to the hiring.

I guess we'll find out @ 11.

Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:06 am
by The_Pauser
$lacker wrote:There have been some rumblings that Luongo could be "Tort's Guy", although its all clearly conjecture at this point.

However, if Gillis truly believes that there is a 2-3 year window to win with this group I would have no problems keeping Lu around to take the majority of the starts and bring another young goalie in to mentor under him (Eriksson or Lack). Especially if we could get a nice package of assets back for 35.
Rumblings from where? The only thing I've seen are posts from people on message boards suggesting this could be the case, but nothing from any credible sources.

Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:27 pm
by Vader
dbr wrote:
Meds wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:Keep Luongo. Let him refuse to report then we can suspend him. Problem solved :mrgreen:
He will still count against the cap....
I assume you're thinking of Tim Thomas, who counted no matter what because he'd signed his deal after turning 35.
Luongo will count against the cap because his contract is greater than 7 years in length regardless if he plays or not

http://www.capgeek.com/recapture-calculator/

Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:30 pm
by Vader
ukcanuck wrote:Whats fucked up is the Bernier and luongo are worth the same in trade value? Bernier more so since that trade got done.
IIRC Bernier doesn't have a contract that runs for the next 9 years :roll:

Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:33 pm
by dbr
Vader wrote:
ukcanuck wrote:Whats fucked up is the Bernier and luongo are worth the same in trade value? Bernier more so since that trade got done.
IIRC Bernier doesn't have a contract that runs for the next 9 years :roll:
Well you were obviously just on capgeek so I'm inclined to take your word for it.

Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:54 pm
by Hockey Widow
Vader wrote:Keep Luongo. Let him refuse to report then we can suspend him. Problem solved :mrgreen:
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Luongo will count against the cap because his contract is greater than 7 years in length regardless if he plays or not




If Luongo refuses to report because he is demanding a trade he can be suspended. A suspended players cap does not count against the cap. His full cap hit does not apply if he signed the contract before age 35, it is the new cap recapture clause that applies and it is split between any team having the advantage of the lower cap in some strange pro rated way. In fact it could be worse for us.

But all of this aside he won't fail to report, he won't be suspended and he won't be bought out, this year. I think MG is stubborn enough to keep him one more year fi he has to and buy out Ballard and keep Booth on LTIR for as long as possible.

Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:58 pm
by Rumsfeld
Hockey Widow wrote:[I think MG is stubborn enough to keep him one more year fi he has to and buy out Ballard and keep Booth on LTIR for as long as possible.
There is no way Gillis is going to go through a full season of what the team went through last year. He tried to give him away at the deadline and he'll trade him for a song if that's all he's offered.

Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:03 pm
by ODB
Ok I know it's pukelund BUTT, WTF does this even mean?

Philly Buys Out Bryzgalov (E5), Luongo to Flyers (E4)
June 25, 2013, 1:59 PM ET [348 Comments]
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To the surprise of no one, the Flyers have bought out Ilya Bryzgalov. From what I've been hearing today, it looks like Philly may have a plan underway to acquire Roberto Luongo -- not by trade.


More to come...
How the fuck is Philly going to land Lou without trading for him. Unless GMMG is planning a buy out?

Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:17 pm
by Arachnid
ODB wrote:Ok I know it's pukelund BUTT, WTF does this even mean?

Philly Buys Out Bryzgalov (E5), Luongo to Flyers (E4)
June 25, 2013, 1:59 PM ET [348 Comments]
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To the surprise of no one, the Flyers have bought out Ilya Bryzgalov. From what I've been hearing today, it looks like Philly may have a plan underway to acquire Roberto Luongo -- not by trade.


More to come...
How the fuck is Philly going to land Lou without trading for him. Unless GMMG is planning a buy out?
Yeah, that's one way to get around the big contract buy him out trade something back allow the Philly Steaks to sign at a reduced price...viola....everybody is happy...except Dave (Nonuts :wink: )

Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:19 pm
by ODB
Arachnid wrote:
ODB wrote:Ok I know it's pukelund BUTT, WTF does this even mean?

Philly Buys Out Bryzgalov (E5), Luongo to Flyers (E4)
June 25, 2013, 1:59 PM ET [348 Comments]
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To the surprise of no one, the Flyers have bought out Ilya Bryzgalov. From what I've been hearing today, it looks like Philly may have a plan underway to acquire Roberto Luongo -- not by trade.


More to come...
How the fuck is Philly going to land Lou without trading for him. Unless GMMG is planning a buy out?
Yeah, that's one way to get around the big contract buy him out trade something back allow the Philly Steaks to sign at a reduced price...viola....everybody is happy...except Dave (Nonuts :wink: )
But what's to stop Lou from signing in Florida for $2.75 a year?

Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:22 pm
by Groovypippin
ODB wrote:
How the fuck is Philly going to land Lou without trading for him. Unless GMMG is planning a buy out?
Why do you think Eklund has to mean anything? Philly clearly must have a plan to bolster their goaltending however. We'll see what happens. If HW is right - and she often is - and Gillis might be prepared to hold onto Lu for yet ANOTHER season if the price isn't right, it really WILL be a total gong-show and distraction. This is one of the rare times I am rooting for HW to be dead wrong.