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Re: Coaches canned

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:55 am
by ESQ
SKYO wrote:"Torts is the guy to squeeze blood from a stone. Won't be here long, but at the end of a team's window, he's the guy you want."
~viatwitter

:thumbs:
That's my feeling as well, if we accept that a total roster overhaul is impossible in an off-season, Tortorella is the definition of "total coaching overhaul".

Re: Coaches canned

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:58 am
by Mondi
Not overly interested in a new coach, much more concerned about what new players Mike "Bold Moves" Gillis is targeting in the offseason.

JT has a Cup ring, is about the same age as AV and, has a similar amount of NHL wins. What else can you ask for?

So long as the media doesn't make him a distraction, as they do with every other conceivable "controversy".

Re: Coaches canned

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:08 am
by Rumsfeld
Getcher fuckin' clownshoes on kids.

Weez a'heading to the circus.

Re: Coaches canned

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:13 am
by dbr
Chris Higgins' brother is over on HFBoards saying that last week he (Chris) got a call from Mike Gillis asking what playing under John Tortorella was like.

I guess Torts must have got Higgins' endorsement, either that or Mike Gillis has it in for the players.

Re: Coaches canned

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:25 am
by Eddy Punch Clock
dbr wrote:Chris Higgins' brother is over on HFBoards saying that last week he (Chris) got a call from Mike Gillis asking what playing under John Tortorella was like.

I guess Torts must have got Higgins' endorsement, either that or Mike Gillis has it in for the players.
The funny part was Chris thinking he got traded when he saw who was calling. :lol:

Re: Coaches canned

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:28 am
by ODB
I think GMMG could have hired any of the available coaches. It's not like Tort's was chosen because he was the last available. I think going with Torts is a bold move. We've been asking for a bold move...

This team is one or two years away from being blown the fuck up. Torts has a one or two year shelf life.

Bold move GMMG, bold move! :thumbs:

Re: Coaches canned

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:32 am
by ESQ
Rumsfeld wrote:Getcher fuckin' clownshoes on kids.

Weez a'heading to the circus.
True...but circuses are fun :thumbs:

If the team is going to continue to age before our eyes and get ground into dust with 1 playoff win in 2 years, I'd rather roll the dice on a volatile but sometimes successful coach than a rookie head coach for Toronto or an assistant coach on a trap team.

Safe is death.

Re: Coaches canned

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:35 am
by dbr
Yeah I am hoping we see much more "safe is death" Torts than what he was doing in New York.

Re: Coaches canned

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:42 am
by Aaronp18
Hope the players are getting ready for Camp Torturella!

Bring him on, hopefully he can not only provide that lead by example assholeness we need but he can bring out the inner asshole in some of our existing players.

Re: Coaches canned

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:43 am
by Rumsfeld
I just wanna go on record right now saying this is a stupid fucking move by Gillis. Torts isn't going to be able to suppress the little cunt inside him for long.

This is going to get ugly and it will probably be spectacular.

*butters popcorn and tucks Skyo in for the night*

Re: Coaches canned

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:57 am
by herb
I don’t think any of the coaching options looked like home runs to me. No matter which way Gillis went, he was going to be vilified and second guessed.

Despite some of his head scratching decisions and over-reliance on his veterans, I did like AV. The major aspect of the past two seasons that consistently pissed me off was the guys didn’t look interested in putting in more than 50% effort for the vast majority of our games games. To me, coaching is at least partly responsible for that. I hope Torts can get this core group of players playing as a five man unit with more consistency, like we saw in 2011.

To me this is a bold move. The bulk of the players aren’t going to be changing teams, and Tortorella’s track record is pretty good. Despite what some have said, he has a record of coaching teams for long periods of time, so I’m not so sure he has a short shelf life.

Re: Coaches canned

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:12 pm
by BurningBeard
Rumsfeld wrote:I just wanna go on record right now saying this is a stupid fucking move by Gillis. Torts isn't going to be able to suppress the little cunt inside him for long.
It's definitely a boom or bust sort of move. Either it works, or Gillis is gone within two years. This is Gillis rolling the hard six.

Re: Coaches canned

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:20 pm
by Hockey Widow
SKYO wrote:
herb wrote:Tippett has agreed to a five year contract extension with Phoenix, so he’s officially not an option.

Gillis met with Johnny T yesterday in Boston.
Eakins, Tippett, Ruff, AV all snapped up.

Basically just Torts and Stevens left, MG has to sign quick this time or some other team will try to snag em up. :o

Torts was the first choice the moment NYR let him go, The Canucks weren't left taking the left overs. This was their guy. They did the same frigging thing in hiring MG. I heard before Nonis was fired that Nonis was getting fired and this guy named Mike Gillis was going to be GM. They did this dog and pony show pretend interviewing with a number of candidates after he was offered the job. They denied it of course but this situation is the same.

I was told back in early May that if Torts was fired the Canucks were going to hire him. I didn't believe it but my friend was adamant that he had talked to a number of players who after having their exit interviews all had the same message. If Torts was available he was going to get the coaching job.


Now I don't know how much this is a MG hiring or how much this was very strongly suggested to him as the best way to go. That is something I don't know if we will ever know.

Re: Coaches canned

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:27 pm
by Eddy Punch Clock
Hockey Widow wrote:I was told back in early May that if Torts was fired the Canucks were going to hire him. I didn't believe it but my friend was adamant that he had talked to a number of players who after having their exit interviews all had the same message. If Torts was available he was going to get the coaching job.
Ha! Finally, a slip up.

We now know your insider is a he!!!

:mrgreen:

Re: Coaches canned

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:45 pm
by Boston Canucker
I think this is going to be a disaster. There is a lot of focus on his relationship to the media, but I don't give a crap about that. This is a hail-mary pass by Gillis (or worse Aqulini...who is making the hockey decisions on this team?!), and I fear it'll blow up in their face. I'll hope for the best, Canucks for life, but I can't say I'm optimistic or pumped about this at all. True, it'll be an freaking entertaining ride...Hank and Danny blocking shots, yes, that'll be a real good use of their talent!