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If an overhaul of this team is needed, which of the following players who should MG shop around...

Hank and Danny
12
7%
Edler
44
25%
Booth
45
26%
Higgins
8
5%
Bieksa
15
9%
Ballard
45
26%
Hamhuis
2
1%
None of the above
2
1%
 
Total votes : 173

Re: Roster Questions

Postby Uncle dans leg » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:37 pm

Cornuck wrote:
Rumsfeld wrote:... if this is the team we plan on icing.


Looks just like the team that got swept in the first round recently. :?

Well we won't have to worry about having such a low pick next summer...I'm thinking 12th...
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Diehard1 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:23 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:It does lack a little something doesn't it Rummy ?

Eye Bags had a chance to trade Burrows and or Edler, perhaps move the bible thumper in a package with a more attractive asset ( Tanev perhaps), but he chose to sit on his hands a la Brian Burke/Pat Quinn. The more things change the more they stay the same.

Same old stale core that is 2 and 12 in its last 14 playoff games. I wonder if Santorelli got a NTC being an Italian and a local boy.


This team makes the playoffs again this year, and will have a chance to compete. Perhaps if Gillis keeps some cap space for once he can add a meaningful player at the deadline. I'm fine with trying some of the youth, and I'm sure they aren't done adding just yet.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby coco_canuck » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:46 pm

If Gaunce or Lain can't crack the line-up, where is the infusion of size to the bottom 6 coming from?

Sestito is big but I'll be impressed if he stick with this team the entire season, let alone next year.

I'd like Weise better if he were the 13th forward, not expected to be a staple on the 4th.

I think the 4th line can be very effective with Richardson at C if he has two big wingers who are good on the forecheck.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Meds » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:00 pm

coco_canuck wrote:If Gaunce or Lain can't crack the line-up, where is the infusion of size to the bottom 6 coming from?

Sestito is big but I'll be impressed if he stick with this team the entire season, let alone next year.

I'd like Weise better if he were the 13th forward, not expected to be a staple on the 4th.

I think the 4th line can be very effective with Richardson at C if he has two big wingers who are good on the forecheck.


Hence the opinion of Weise and Sestito? :P

Although I think that Weise has the wheels to be a good forechecker, Sestito does not.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Diehard1 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:52 am

Meds wrote:
coco_canuck wrote:If Gaunce or Lain can't crack the line-up, where is the infusion of size to the bottom 6 coming from?

Sestito is big but I'll be impressed if he stick with this team the entire season, let alone next year.

I'd like Weise better if he were the 13th forward, not expected to be a staple on the 4th.

I think the 4th line can be very effective with Richardson at C if he has two big wingers who are good on the forecheck.


Hence the opinion of Weise and Sestito? :P

Although I think that Weise has the wheels to be a good forechecker, Sestito does not.


I seriously doubt Sestito will be anything more than a 13th forward type. Even a guy like Archibald might be better as a 4th line banger, Sestito just isn't fast enough to get in on the forecheck. There's still a few guys left in free agency that might work, guys like Brandon Yip are available for likely a minimum salary.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby dbr » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:33 am

Yip/Richardson/anyone isn't going to wear opponents down.. and given Yip got his walking papers from a team with maybe the worst forward group in the league I doubt he'll be effective enough to make up for that.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby SKYO » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:56 am

Aaronp18 wrote:Even better.

Trade Burrows and Tanev to FLA, get Matthias and their first rounder in 2015. They're gonna suck so it may be McDavid!!

Sign Morrow - $4M
Sign Blum - $660K



Just keep it simple with Burrows for Matthias, an el perfecto trade for this team, if we are going to try to win it all we need that stellar two-way 3rd line center right now.

However I'd offer Burrows for any of these 3rd line centers.
Matthias or Nielsen or Eller.

I'd think Burrows would wave his NTC for Montreal though and there'd actually be mutual interest from both teams.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Benjo » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:15 am

The Canucks are so offense starved as it is I'd rather not trade one of our leading goal scorers for a 3rd line centre.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby SKYO » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:16 am

coco_canuck wrote:If Gaunce or Lain can't crack the line-up, where is the infusion of size to the bottom 6 coming from?

Sestito is big but I'll be impressed if he stick with this team the entire season, let alone next year.

I'd like Weise better if he were the 13th forward, not expected to be a staple on the 4th.

I think the 4th line can be very effective with Richardson at C if he has two big wingers who are good on the forecheck.


Another thing to think about though is having someone who can actually play hockey skill wise on the 3rd/4th line, our greatest weakness is the lack of scoring goals after the Sedin line, so with that I'm hoping Santorelli can somehow be added on the 3rd or 4th line, good on faceoffs and shootouts to boot.

As for Guance and Lain I really hope one of them can play well enough to make the squad.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby SKYO » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:22 am

Benjo wrote:The Canucks are so offense starved as it is I'd rather not trade one of our leading goal scorers for a 3rd line centre.


It's a risk needed imo, gambling that Kassian playing full time with the twins - he should be able to become at least a 25 goal scorer.

Not to mention we are severely depleted down the middle and with the risk of injury looming around Kesler every game now, it's imperative we find a solid 3rd line center who can move up when RK inevitably gets injured again.

Plus if this 3rd line center we could acquire for Burr can put up decent points, I think its worth the risk for trading Burrows and his $4.5M cap hit.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Topper » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:29 am

I do not understand what Zach showed you folks last season that would have you play him with the Sedins. Yes they had a hot start, but after that, despite getting 1st shift after a PK, nothing. Zach finished the season as a 3rd line player. How has he miraculously earned first line duty?
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby dbr » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:43 am

He hasn't.

I think most are just sick of watching a 1.5 line team, and are hoping the Sedins can carry Kassian and Burrows can do some heavy lifting elsewhere.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby coco_canuck » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:49 am

I'm not sure if Kassian is ready for permanent top 6 duty but unless Gaunce or Horvat can play the 3rd line C role that includes lots of defensive responsibilities, it will fall on Kesler's line to be the shut-down crew again.

If that's the case, I would like to see a Higgins-Kesler-Burrows line.

But if Kassian can't hack it on line 1, you move Burrows back to the 1st line and go with: Higgins-Kesler-Hansen and drop Kassian to the 3rd with Booth and whoever the 3rd C is.

You could probably get away with a Schroeder or Santorelli as the 3rd line C if you play that line protected minutes and have big physical wingers such as Booth and Kasian flanking him.

Still, having Santorelli or Richardson as the 3rd line C is far from ideal.

Captain obvious here, but the 3rd line C and Kassian's ability to be a productive top 9 forward are the two biggest questions that need to be answered for us to be real contenders again.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby dbr » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:59 am

IMO it's Ryan Kesler's health but those two are the next biggest for me.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby coco_canuck » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:06 am

dbr wrote:IMO it's Ryan Kesler's health but those two are the next biggest for me.


Yes of course.

I was assuming (blindly mind you) that Kes will be healthy. But even if he's rolling, we will have trouble going on a deep run if we don't have an effective third option.
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