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If an overhaul of this team is needed, which of the following players who should MG shop around...

Hank and Danny
12
7%
Edler
44
25%
Booth
45
26%
Higgins
8
5%
Bieksa
15
9%
Ballard
45
26%
Hamhuis
2
1%
None of the above
2
1%
 
Total votes : 173

Re: Roster Questions

Postby Meds » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:46 pm

Spock wrote:JS is an RFA - so he may or not be qualified I suppose. Given the overall limited depth the Canucks have in their system, I can't see him just being thrown in the junk pile. He is probably too small to be a true centerman - might not be a bad idea to try him on wing. Problem being - the Canucks are very thin down the middle as we saw last season.

Re: defense pairings - I don't know who Torts will put with whom. But there is a serious lack of depth at defense without Ballard and Alberts. I would not give Barker another sniff at the ice - he was atrocious.

I wouldn't mind the talent being spread out among the lines and rolling the 4 lines to see if they can get some favorable matchups against 3rd pairing defensemen....


I forgot that Schroeder is RFA. That changes things a little. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he play a few stints on the wing during the WJC's? It's a while ago and I can't remember exactly.

I thought that Barker looked like a slower, and weaker shooting, version of Edler out there this year. I'm not saying bring him back, just that his hockey sense was often on par with our highest paid defenseman.....just fewer physical tools to go with it.

Depending on what happens with buyouts, trades, and free agency, the idea of spreading out the talent could be a good one. Right now we only have 3 players who can dominate the play to a degree that they would exploit a weak 3rd pairing. Henrik, Daniel, and Kesler. I think we would need one more true top 6 forward to make spreading it out worthwhile without sacrificing a lot on our top 2 lines.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby herb » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:15 pm

Schroeder will be qualified. I don’t think it makes any sense not to. He’s a cheap young player who has very little trade value and has proven to be a serviceable, albeit marginal, NHL centre. He seems to have decent hockey sense and may yet turn into a decent NHL player.

I don’t think there’s much to be excited about here, but I don’t think it makes sense to give up on him at this point. He has played three full professional seasons though, so it’s getting close to put up or shut up time for Schroeder.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Meds » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:13 pm

herb wrote:Schroeder will be qualified. I don’t think it makes any sense not to. He’s a cheap young player who has very little trade value and has proven to be a serviceable, albeit marginal, NHL centre. He seems to have decent hockey sense and may yet turn into a decent NHL player.

I don’t think there’s much to be excited about here, but I don’t think it makes sense to give up on him at this point. He has played three full professional seasons though, so it’s getting close to put up or shut up time for Schroeder.


Schroeder has been qualified. :P
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Topper » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:05 am

tantalum wrote:The Joslin one surprises me a bit. The others don't.

The guy stunk.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby tantalum » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:28 am

Topper wrote:
tantalum wrote:The Joslin one surprises me a bit. The others don't.

The guy stunk.


Of course he did...he was a long ways down on the depth chart for a reason. I'm surprised given the desire for the organization to have 101 D-men that have logged NHL icetime at some point in their careers for depth.

I'm of the opinion that once you get past the first call up or two you better be hoping none of the top 4 are injured because those call ups really don't contribute a damn thing.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby SKYO » Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:37 pm

If Kassian is ever going to get some good minutes, I think MG is going to have to deal a Right Winger asap.

Burrows
Booth or Higgins
Hansen
Kassian
Weise

We also have Jensen to bring along in year or so.

Be nice if we could trade one for a Shawn Matthias type.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Aaronp18 » Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:48 pm

SKYO wrote:If Kassian is ever going to get some good minutes, I think MG is going to have to deal a Right Winger asap.

Burrows
Booth or Higgins
Hansen
Kassian
Weise

We also have Jensen to bring along in year or so.

Be nice if we could trade one for a Shawn Matthias type.


Burrows, Booth, and Higgins can all play the left side.

Though I might trade Burrows for Matthias and a pick. A $1.75M cap hit from him for the next 2 years would look good as our third line centre!
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Aaronp18 » Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:02 pm

Even better.

Trade Burrows and Tanev to FLA, get Matthias and their first rounder in 2015. They're gonna suck so it may be McDavid!!

Sign Morrow - $4M
Sign Blum - $660K

We'd still have $2.2M in cap space then to sign someone else perhaps.

FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Brenden Morrow ($4.000m)
Chris Higgins ($2.500m) / Shawn Matthias ($1.750m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)
Tom Sestito ($0.750m) / Brad Richardson ($1.150m) / Brendan Gaunce ($1.057m)
Darren Archibald ($0.660m)
DEFENSEMEN
Alexander Edler ($5.000m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
Jason Garrison ($4.600m) / Yannick Weber ($0.650m)
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Jonathon Blum ($0.650m)
Frank Corrado ($0.599m) /
GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo ($5.333m)
Eddie Lack ($0.750m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,219,444; BONUSES: $162,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $2,243,056
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Meds » Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:16 pm

Aaronp18 wrote:Even better.

Trade Burrows and Tanev to FLA, get Matthias and their first rounder in 2015. They're gonna suck so it may be McDavid!!

Sign Morrow - $4M
Sign Blum - $660K

We'd still have $2.2M in cap space then to sign someone else perhaps.

FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Brenden Morrow ($4.000m)
Chris Higgins ($2.500m) / Shawn Matthias ($1.750m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)
Tom Sestito ($0.750m) / Brad Richardson ($1.150m) / Brendan Gaunce ($1.057m)
Darren Archibald ($0.660m)
DEFENSEMEN
Alexander Edler ($5.000m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
Jason Garrison ($4.600m) / Yannick Weber ($0.650m)
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Jonathon Blum ($0.650m)
Frank Corrado ($0.599m) /
GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo ($5.333m)
Eddie Lack ($0.750m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,219,444; BONUSES: $162,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $2,243,056


All except for the part where you have Bieksa playing with Edler. Disaster in the making.

One of Bieksa or Edler need to go if we are going to be playing some youngsters on the blueline. Young players like Blum, Corrado, and Weber, need to be paired with responsible guys like Garrison and Hamhuis, Responsible young defensemen like Tanev are few and far between, some first round picks being an exception. Inconsistent players like Edler and Bieksa are not guys you want playing next to young dmen who struggle with their own inconsistencies of inexperience.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Aaronp18 » Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:23 pm

Meds wrote:All except for the part where you have Bieksa playing with Edler. Disaster in the making.


That's just the way capgeek organized everything on the backend. I edited a few things but forgot to move that pairing around.

Weber and Blum are both 24 and I think you could pair one of them with Edler. But we do have $2.2M in capspace with that scenario so additional moves could be made taking on salary.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Meds » Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:02 pm

Aaronp18 wrote:
Meds wrote:All except for the part where you have Bieksa playing with Edler. Disaster in the making.


That's just the way capgeek organized everything on the backend. I edited a few things but forgot to move that pairing around.

Weber and Blum are both 24 and I think you could pair one of them with Edler. But we do have $2.2M in capspace with that scenario so additional moves could be made taking on salary.


I'd soon pair one of them with Bieksa.....but that would mean pairing two right-handed shooters.

When Bieksa screws up he usually responds with some snarl and picks it up. When Edler screws up you can expect that to be the tip of the iceberg.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Rumsfeld » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:34 am

D.Sedin H.Sedin Kassian
Booth Kesler Burrows
Higgins Schroeder Hansen
Weise Lain Richardson -- Sestito Santorelli Jensen Pinizzotto

Edler Garrison
Bieksa Hamhuis
Tanev Weber -- Corrado

Luongo
______ -- Lack Ericsson




The Kings, Ducks and Sharks are going to be pretty stoked we're in their division if this is the team we plan on icing.

Looks terrible.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:00 pm

It does lack a little something doesn't it Rummy ?

Eye Bags had a chance to trade Burrows and or Edler, perhaps move the bible thumper in a package with a more attractive asset ( Tanev perhaps), but he chose to sit on his hands a la Brian Burke/Pat Quinn. The more things change the more they stay the same.

Same old stale core that is 2 and 12 in its last 14 playoff games. I wonder if Santorelli got a NTC being an Italian and a local boy.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Cornuck » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:18 pm

Rumsfeld wrote:... if this is the team we plan on icing.


Looks just like the team that got swept in the first round recently. :?
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Jovocop » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:46 pm

Cornuck wrote:
Rumsfeld wrote:... if this is the team we plan on icing.


Looks just like the team that got swept in the first round recently. :?


Or you can say they look like the team that went all the way to the SCF. Hopefully, Torts can rejuvenate this team.
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