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If an overhaul of this team is needed, which of the following players who should MG shop around...

Hank and Danny
12
7%
Edler
44
25%
Booth
45
26%
Higgins
8
5%
Bieksa
15
9%
Ballard
45
26%
Hamhuis
2
1%
None of the above
2
1%
 
Total votes : 173

Re: Roster Questions

Postby SKYO » Mon May 27, 2013 6:51 pm

Orcasfan wrote:Given the choice, I'd rather move Bieksa rather than Edler. Bieksa, in my view, has already peaked and is heading downhill. Edler...who knows? The problem, of course, is that Bieksa is that much - sought - after right hand D. So, it ain't gonna happen!

Not to mention juice has a full ntc.

Orcasfan wrote:Actually, one of the big holes in the long-term is the 1st C, once Hank ages enough. I have absolutely no confidence in Kesler filling that position adequately! :look: He is not a playmaker; he does not make line-mates better. He is a very good 2nd C, and is essential on special teams. But, in the next couple of years, the Canucks need to either draft or acquire a young player who can develop (in 2-3 years) into the #1 C.

Which is why I am advocate of re-signing the Sedins, they are our best hope for a Cup in these next 5 years if they re-sign.
And if that happens it gives MG, or whatever GM we have, a lot of time to find/draft a future number 1 center for 2018 and beyond.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Meds » Mon May 27, 2013 7:59 pm

SKYO wrote:
Orcasfan wrote:Given the choice, I'd rather move Bieksa rather than Edler. Bieksa, in my view, has already peaked and is heading downhill. Edler...who knows? The problem, of course, is that Bieksa is that much - sought - after right hand D. So, it ain't gonna happen!

Not to mention juice has a full ntc.

Orcasfan wrote:Actually, one of the big holes in the long-term is the 1st C, once Hank ages enough. I have absolutely no confidence in Kesler filling that position adequately! :look: He is not a playmaker; he does not make line-mates better. He is a very good 2nd C, and is essential on special teams. But, in the next couple of years, the Canucks need to either draft or acquire a young player who can develop (in 2-3 years) into the #1 C.

Which is why I am advocate of re-signing the Sedins, they are our best hope for a Cup in these next 5 years if they re-sign.
And if that happens it gives MG, or whatever GM we have, a lot of time to find/draft a future number 1 center for 2018 and beyond.


That's where I would be OK with both re-signing the Sedins to 3 year deals (unless they want more than $5.5M), trading Schneider and our 1st to move up and get McKinnon. That would really load up the center position for us down the road.

McKinnon projects to be a top 6 forward, probably a #1 pivot. I was big on Drouin at first, but watching some of the Memorial Cup, it looks like Drouin is going to be pretty 1 dimensional. A pure scorer who has slick hands and speed and could just as easily go the way of Robbie Schremp as he could become Patrick Kane or Pavel Datsyuk (the latter if he really worked on his defensive game and back checking, he certainly has the hands for it).

Gaunce, from the sounds of things this year, projects to be a 2nd or 3rd line center.

Schroeder could still pan out as a 2nd line center if he's surrounded by some size and can play like St. Louis. Or he's going to be a sought after 3rd scoring line middle man.

Kesler will be around for a while still, and if he really wants to win then he'll mold himself into a total team guy and play where he can best help the team to win games. With what he brings to the ice that can be anything from a 1st line center to a 3rd line shutdown guy depending on his wingers.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Per » Tue May 28, 2013 10:52 am

Rödin is returning home and has signed a two year contract with Brynäs.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Island Nucklehead » Tue May 28, 2013 12:46 pm

Per wrote:Rödin is returning home and has signed a two year contract with Brynäs.


Oh Well.

I wonder how much Brad Richards would cost once the Rags buy him out? Hank-Kes-Richards for under $15M would help the C depth.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Topper » Wed May 29, 2013 6:30 am

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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Eddy Punch Clock » Wed May 29, 2013 8:27 am

Topper wrote:Image


As Spudley said last night...

I don't get it.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Wed May 29, 2013 8:38 am

Personally I think a jap bike would have been more appropriate.


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Re: Roster Questions

Postby donlever » Wed May 29, 2013 8:49 am

Eddy Punch Clock wrote: As Spudley said last night...

I don't get it.


I'm gonna guess he is referring to the pace at which Brad Richards gets around the ice these days.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Orcasfan » Wed May 29, 2013 8:50 am

Here's a radical thought - one way of changing the roster and improving the scoring is to move players around. I don't mean the line juggling that AV was in love with, either.

So, here is the new 1st line: Sedin - Sedin - Kesler

With this, you have potentially made changes/improvements to the top nine. Kesler is probably an upgrade on Burr on the first line; he's younger; he shoots right; he is a shooter, not a passer. This could be the only way to get Kesler onto the 1st line while he is still at his (theoretical) peak. I think it would also mature him as a player, under the influence of the twins. :)

The 2nd line could be: Burrows - Schroeder - Kassian/Jensen

Burr would be the leader on this line. Schroeder would have a chance to develop and show his true talent in a niche that he would be suited to. Kassian or Jensen would add size and either toughness or more scoring skill. Again, Jensen seems to be a shooter more than a passer. Burr would mentor that young line well defensively.

And then the 3rd line could be: Higgins - New guy/Gaunce - New guy/Gaunce/other prospect

Obviously, in one sense, the key to this line would be acquiring a good, experienced C, with good face-off skill. The rest speaks for itself. If we give Gaunce a good chance to make the roster on this line, he has time to develop his defensive skills even more. At the same time, with a good C, he could also contribute offensively. Putting Gaunce at the C position immediately would not be wise. That position has too much responsibility for a young rookie to bear. But it might not take too long for him to take over those duties in a couple of years.

It seems to me that a new coach might be willing to try stuff like this. I hope this is the type of brainstorming that is going on with GMMG & Co. And certainly should be discussed with the new coaching staff. Of course, there are a couple of "questions", that might derail this scheme. First, is Schroeder going to be ready come September (shoulder surgery). Then, would Kes work with the Sedins? Also. are Jensen and Gaunce able to make the team. I'm assuming that the answers to all these questions is "Yes", but it is only an assumption! I'm also asuming that GMMG is able to find a 3rd C (and that shouldn't be an assumption, but is.. :look: ).
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Topper » Wed May 29, 2013 9:10 am

A hole in the Canucks youth you can and someone did, drive a truck through.

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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Eddy Punch Clock » Wed May 29, 2013 9:18 am

Topper wrote:A hole in the Canucks youth you can and someone did, drive a truck through.

...................on this day in history..........


Thats what I first thought... but for some reason I thought that happened later in the summer.

Probably because back then by late May the Canucks had been almost two months separated from hockey.

I like Levers explanation though.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby donlever » Wed May 29, 2013 9:23 am

Eddy Punch Clock wrote:
I like Levers explanation though.


So did I.

Never in a billion years would I have remembered when Bourdon died.

Man I used to really care about this stuff to the point of recalling finite details on everything Canuck.

Now?

Meh.
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Re: Roster Questions

Postby Eddy Punch Clock » Wed May 29, 2013 9:28 am

donlever wrote:
Eddy Punch Clock wrote:
I like Levers explanation though.

Now?

Meh.


Don't you mean blech?

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Re: Roster Questions

Postby donlever » Wed May 29, 2013 9:55 am

You mean 10 right?

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Re: Roster Questions

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