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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby cjc » Wed May 08, 2013 9:31 am

Eddy Punch Clock wrote:
donlever wrote:....I hear that the management team and ownership were staying at a resort outside of San Jose while the team was in town at a hotel.

Common or uncommon? I don't know.

A declaration of separation?

Making future plans while post season going forward when it is clear the team is badly damaged?


I was asking that yesterday.

Blake Price thought is was odd whereas Sekeres had no issue with it.

I'm leaning more towards the conspiracy theory side... keeps things more interesting that way. ;)


The owners like to party - very hard. Not difficult to see why they'd be at a resort. This is not really a business for them, it's their entertainment.
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby ukcanuck » Wed May 08, 2013 9:49 am

For the last 20 years Detroit has been the model of consistency and success. I thought that was the model than the Canucks were building on the west coast. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember core changes like the ones being proposed here now. Coaching change yes, building from within yes, but have the wings given up on an Edler or any other similar core player?
There seems to be enough room for change by clearing out 12 million in salaries in Booth, Ballard and Luongo,
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby Reefer2 » Wed May 08, 2013 10:23 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote:They need a serious re tool. I would dangle an Edler/Kesler package in front of Philly and a few other teams and see what they would offer up. 17 is a good player but he is often injured and his acidic attitude is getting a bit much. If Philly wants to send the Schenns and their first back with our first going the other way I dont know how you don't look at this. Maybe Hartnell/Simmonds and Voracek. Perhaps Couturier is in play. Lots of possibilities with the Flyers. Maybe they bite on Lou.

Raymond, Lappiere, Ballard and Booth all have to go, someway, somehow. LOL at the people shitting on CS. No he didn't play well the last two games but he was not ready physically or mentally and it showed. AV and staff are obviously gone, but if Gillis doesn't have the cajones to cut into this core he should also be guillotined.

A couple of these players need to be asked if they will waive their ntc and imho Kesler would waive for Philly or the Wings. He did sign an offer sheet once upon a time with the Flyers or as one former poster said he " hunted an offer sheet".

Burrows is another guy I would look hard at moving. That 4.5 million per could be a boat anchor in two years.


blob - excellent post and exactly what I would look at doing.


players out in would balance out in the cap hit.
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby dbr » Wed May 08, 2013 10:36 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote:They need a serious re tool. I would dangle an Edler/Kesler package in front of Philly and a few other teams and see what they would offer up. 17 is a good player but he is often injured and his acidic attitude is getting a bit much. If Philly wants to send the Schenns and their first back with our first going the other way I dont know how you don't look at this. Maybe Hartnell/Simmonds and Voracek. Perhaps Couturier is in play. Lots of possibilities with the Flyers. Maybe they bite on Lou.


:lol:

It'll be the blockbuster of the century.

We send them Kesler, Edler, Bieksa, Luongo, they send us Brygalov (to buy out), the Schenns, Couturier, their 1st round pick, Wayne Simmonds, uhh something else :look: ...
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby ESQ » Wed May 08, 2013 10:42 am

I wonder if PITT will be in the market for a goalie this off-season...god knows they need one.
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby donlever » Wed May 08, 2013 10:46 am

cjc wrote:The owners like to party - very hard. Not difficult to see why they'd be at a resort. This is not really a business for them, it's their entertainment.


So they were partying hard with GMMG, Gilman, Henning et al while their team was floundering about going down in Flames were they?

That's your assessment?
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby herb » Wed May 08, 2013 10:47 am

ESQ wrote:I wonder if PITT will be in the market for a goalie this off-season...god knows they need one.


If the Canucks played the Pens in the first round, nobody would be complaining about our forwards inability to score.

Blob's post is about where I'm at. Nothing, is off the table as far as I'm concerned. Edler, Bieksa, Burrows, Kesler and Hansen, not to mention Lalongo, Booth and Ballard (LOL!), are all in play if I'm GM.
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby ESQ » Wed May 08, 2013 12:04 pm

herb wrote:Blob's post is about where I'm at. Nothing, is off the table as far as I'm concerned. Edler, Bieksa, Burrows, Kesler and Hansen, not to mention Lalongo, Booth and Ballard (LOL!), are all in play if I'm GM.


One conspicuous absence from your list is Schneider :lol:

I've been a staunch Luongo defender from day one, and I believe the day he is traded will be a day of infamy in the long-suffering history of the Canucks. BUT, I don't think trading him is in MG's control, I think he wants out more than MG wants to move him.

As soon as CS came out with that story about anxiety attacks causing him to cramp vs. Chicago, I thought WTF are we doing with this guy as our starter? However, in spite of the fact that I believe Luongo is the superior goalie, I strongly believe CS would fetch a far better return. Unfortunately, I doubt that is in the cards.
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby BurningBeard » Wed May 08, 2013 12:15 pm

ESQ wrote:One conspicuous absence from your list is Schneider :lol:

I've been a staunch Luongo defender from day one, and I believe the day he is traded will be a day of infamy in the long-suffering history of the Canucks. BUT, I don't think trading him is in MG's control, I think he wants out more than MG wants to move him.


It's probably about as likely as the twins getting traded, however I'm also in the "anything on the table" category. If the market has soured and all you can get for Luongo is a 2nd round draft pick, I think you need to look at your options. That said, I do think there should be some new possibilities for Lou in Philly, and possibly Pitts (let's hope the melt down in net continues).
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby donlever » Wed May 08, 2013 12:19 pm

Schneider starting game 3 and 4 after Luongo was apparently good in the first two combined with this equals not such good news for any hopes of him staying around methinks. Bye bye Luo.

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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby BurningBeard » Wed May 08, 2013 12:21 pm

donlever wrote:Schneider starting game 3 and 4 after Luongo was apparently good in the first two combined with this equals not such good news for any hopes of him staying around methinks. Bye bye Luo.

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2013/05/luon ... le-photos/


Maybe he's just trying to downgrade and wants to buy something south of the Fraser. You know something with a lawn, where the kids can play? :lol:
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby Aaronp18 » Wed May 08, 2013 12:39 pm

BurningBeard wrote:Maybe he's just trying to downgrade and wants to buy something south of the Fraser. You know something with a lawn, where the kids can play? :lol:


Well this would probably be the first time anyone has ever referred to FLA as "south of the Fraser", but it does work!
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby Eddy Punch Clock » Wed May 08, 2013 12:48 pm

ESQ wrote:I wonder if PITT will be in the market for a goalie this off-season...god knows they need one.


Bylsma knows too.

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“We brought Tomas Vokoun in to play big games for us and be a goaltender we can count on to go in and play big games. He’s done that this year for us,” head coach Dan Bylsma said.
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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby Topper » Wed May 08, 2013 12:58 pm

donlever wrote:Schneider starting game 3 and 4 after Luongo was apparently good in the first two combined with this equals not such good news for any hopes of him staying around methinks. Bye bye Luo.

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2013/05/luon ... le-photos/

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Re: Gills and Vigneault

Postby rats19 » Wed May 08, 2013 1:01 pm

Topper wrote:

On a side note, is c-hair becoming a lost unit of measurement?


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