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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Strangelove » Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:06 pm

Royalfeld, get high on your Vancouver Canucks buddy! :thumbs:
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby JonT21 » Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:52 pm

Rumsfeld wrote:
JonT21 wrote:Thank god there is at least one positive post in this whole god damn website


Nice one, Simple Jack. Another unpunctuated sentence for the highlight reel.

See, y'all have to remember something about our good friend Mr. Strangelove.

He is a hardcore Republican, which means he is well-versed in the appeasement of morons. In fact he's terrific at it.

That's why he's the people's poster! :D

Doc knew there were no WMDs in Iraq.

Doc knows Obama wasn't really born in Kenya.

Doc knows the 2013/14 version of the Canucks is nowhere near as good as the one that made it to the Final.

And Doc also knows that even the version that made it to the Final was one OT goal away from the most embarrassing first-round exit in hockey history!

There has been something missing in the playoffs for this team for a while now, and it goes back to 2009.

But hey, Doc likes making morons happy, and a happy moron is a wonderful thing! Don't change a thing Strangelove!

*adjusts JonT21's bib*

There ya go, buddy. You were getting that applesauce all over your new Power Rangers shirt.

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First of all there is no way you are not 13 and a half

Second of all I don't like applesauce and I don't own any Power Rangers paraphernalia
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby rats19 » Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:21 pm

while this is off topic and should get back on...I dont think a 13 and a half year old would understand the concept rumsfeld is explaining...let alone come up with it...
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby ukcanuck » Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:51 pm

If Rumsfeld is 13 and a half, we need to get him an agent cause the kid's gotta future in comedy and hard core porn.

JonT however seems to have an underdeveloped sense of ha ha. Or maybe he just forgot that its August...
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Uncle dans leg » Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:57 pm

I left Vancouver years ago but is Riverdale still there and would they really give the "guests" unsupervised access to the Internet?
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Reefer2 » Sun Aug 11, 2013 4:10 am

JonT21 wrote:
Strangelove wrote:
Meds wrote:WTF?

We want the guy that is supposed to be our second coming of Bertuzzi (minus Moore) to play like a soft Swedish 20 goal sniper?

And who cares about Lack playing like Schneider. Cory only saw 40 minutes of ice time in the playoffs in 2011. Lou just has to play like Lou (minus games 3, 4, and 6).


*sigh*

Okay, let's give this another look...

There is still room for one or two more moves.

Let's say Alberts realizes guys like him are taking a beating due to the artificially low cap this year

... and he loves being a Canuck... so he signs for $700K.

Now, Nonis has somehow painted himself into a corner in the centre of the universe.

He doesn't have the cap space to re-sign both Kadri and Franson.

Re-signing those two would give him his 23 players (13 forwards, 8 dee, 2 goalies)

Rumour is he's now looking to deal Franson, but there are only a handful of teams with cap-room.

Even fewer that can offer the ideal return, considering his dire situation.

Franson is one of only 2 RHS dee the Leaves have (the other one, Holzer, is #7 on the depth chart).

So the ideal return for Leaves would be a RHS proven NHL tweener on a low contract ($1.5m or less).

Enter Chris Tanev.

Canucks upgrade their dee by trading Tanev straight up for Cody Franson. :mex:

Did I mention he's a BC boy who feels he has been screwed over by the Leaves?

Okay, compare this squad to the cup run squad of a few years ago...

FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m)
Chris Higgins ($2.500m) / Jordan Schroeder ($0.600m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)
Tom Sestito ($0.750m) / Brad Richardson ($1.150m) / Dale Weise ($0.750m)
Mike Santorelli ($0.550m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
Alexander Edler ($5.000m) / Cody Franson ($3.000m)
Jason Garrison ($4.600m) / Yannick Weber ($0.650m)
Andrew Alberts ($0.700m) / Frank Corrado ($0.599m)
GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo ($5.333m)
Eddie Lack ($0.750m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,202,778; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $97,22

Sedin – Sedin – Burrows = Sedin – Sedin – Burrows

C'mon they had a bad last year due to a slow start in a shortened season, Burrows shuffled around.

MAYBE they score 10 less goals, but it's not like they're over-the-hill and older means more experience baby! :thumbs:

Booth – Kesler – Kassian > Raymond – Kesler – Samuelsson

If Booth is healthy he brings much more to the table than Raymond (15 goals that season).

If young Kassian improves somewhat as most expect he could easily be better than Sammy (18 that season)

Plus, and this can not be understated, Kassian is an asshole.

Higgins – Malhotra – Hansen = Higgins – Schroeder – Hansen

Young Schroeder is likely to improve, NO not to Manny-levels, but Higgins & Hansen are better players now.

Richardson – Lain - Weise < Torres – Lapierre – Glass

But hey it's only the 4th line amirite? :drink:


I'll add here that, Gaunce and Jensen playing on the top line in Utica make for good injury callups...


Hamhuis – Bieksa
Edler – Ehrhoff
Ballard – Salo
Alberts – Rome

vs

Hamhuis – Bieksa
Edler – Franson
Garrison - Corrado
Alberts – Weber


I feel that latter group is the better defensive group but debating the matter would be akin to splitting hairs.

Goaltending, Luongo can go back to 68+ starts as he has done most of his career

... meaning whoever plays backup is not a big deal.

So sure Schneider was a better backup in 2010-11 than Lack/Eriksson are likely to be in 2013-14.

But who knows and who cares, and besides both Lack and Eriksson are considered stellar.

And so, upon further review, yours truly has decided your Vancouver Canucks will win your 2014 Stanley Cup.

Thank god there is at least one positive post in this whole god damn website


Why did you waste 12" on my screen to quote a big post and only say 1 sentence?
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Uncle dans leg » Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:15 am

JonT21 wrote:Thank god there is at least one positive post in this whole god damn website

The reality is the team had such a colossal failure of an opening round playoff that viewing anything about the team other than changes almost feels like acceptance of being swept in round 1.

On top of this, the team had an almost equally as bad playoff the year before...

2 straight years of watching your team suck ass like no other kinda wears on you....and dont hand me that crap about making the playoffs being any sort of accomplishment. It's not.

Unless you live in Alberta :eh:
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Meds » Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:38 pm

Uncle dans leg wrote:
JonT21 wrote:Thank god there is at least one positive post in this whole god damn website

The reality is the team had such a colossal failure of an opening round playoff that viewing anything about the team other than changes almost feels like acceptance of being swept in round 1.

On top of this, the team had an almost equally as bad playoff the year before...

2 straight years of watching your team suck ass like no other kinda wears on you....and dont hand me that crap about making the playoffs being any sort of accomplishment. It's not.

Unless you live in Alberta :eh:


Or Toronto.....
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Jovocop » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:40 pm

Leverage?? I just hope that Tanev is not receiving ill advices from his agent, like some other ex-Canucks... :mrgreen:

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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Meds » Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:04 pm

Jovocop wrote:Leverage?? I just hope that Tanev is not receiving ill advices from his agent, like some other ex-Canucks... :mrgreen:

Jim Jamieson ‏@JamiesonCanucks
#Canucks RFA d-man Chris Tanev has received interest from the KHL and the Swiss elite league, according to his agent.


I can't see him going to play in the KHL over money alone. He knows as well as anyone that this is a crunch year for almost every team. The NHL is still the best league in the world. If the issue is term, then Gillis should either make a big splash and move him, or just sign him for less (term and salary). If the issue is salary then it had better be a difference of $1M or more because I can't see Tanev heading overseas to play in a lesser league.

But maybe money talks to this kid.

Tanev + Edler + 1st for Pietrangelo!!!! :P
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby RoyalDude » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:34 pm

Bottom line, this team is a good regular season team but the real season - the playoffs, their game doesn't translate well from regular season to playoffs.

I don't expect anything different come the playoffs this coming season if this core group remains the same.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby SKYO » Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:52 pm

Canucks looking at huge D-man Douglas Murray

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The Canucks have been kicking the tires on huge free agent defenceman Douglas Murray, his agent confirmed on Tuesday morning.

“We’ve talked to them off and on all summer,” said player agent Anton Thun. “At this point we’re not close to signing. There are a group of clubs that have interest, so it comes down to the right circumstances and the right dollars. At this point in time there’s a gridlock in terms of cap space and money availability with a number of clubs. Until some of that shakes out and the dominoes start to fall, I think the market is going to be tight. Whenever that starts to shake out, we’ll react accordingly as to what might be the right place.”

The Canucks have just six defencemen signed to NHL contracts next season – two under the usual number – and two of those are fringer Yannick Weber and rookie Frank Corrado. Even if they get a deal done for restricted free agent Chris Tanev, that leaves the blueline numbers one short. Canucks assistant GM Laurence Gilman has acknowledged the team is looking to add a D-man with NHL experience.

Gilman said Murray is just one in a group of defencemen the team is considering.

“We are looking to add another NHL calibre defenceman to our group and have had discussions with numerous agents regarding various players currently available in the market,” Gilman said in a text message.

Murray, 33, is nothing if not imposing. He’s listed at 6-foot-3 and 245 pounds, but that seems light to anyone who’s stood next to the native of Bromma, Sweden.

His strengths are positional play, penalty kill, shot-blocking, making it unpleasant for opposing players to hang out near his goaltender’s crease and standing up for teammates when necessary.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby ukcanuck » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:02 pm

His strengths are positional play, penalty kill, shot-blocking, making it unpleasant for opposing players to hang out near his goaltender’s crease and standing up for teammates when necessary.


just felt that needs repeating....
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Zedlee » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:26 pm

Murray would look great, but given the lack of cap room, I"m sure the Canucks hope to get him at a bargain price. Similar to the $1 million contract they gave to Torres a couple years ago.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Rumsfeld » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:37 pm

So between Murray, Fistric and Alberts, who would be the best fit?

Murray brings ridiculous size and can add a much-needed intimidation factor, but he's a pylon.

Fistric is the best hitter of the group, something we also sorely need, but again he gets burned more often than Meds in a spelling bee.

Alberts might actually be the best option of the three... he's got a combination of all the factors listed above, he's probably more affordable, and he really improved his gap control last season. That said, Alberts is the same ole same ole, and as fans we tend to get more excited about new blood.

You know it's been a boring fucking summer when our biggest personnel decision involves a #6 D-man. :lol:

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