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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby xtr3m » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:39 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:Sportsnet Pacific
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#Canucks have added John Weisbrod to the Hockey Operations staff as Vice President, Player Personnel.

Don't know anything about him really.


He was part of the team that offer sheeted ROR without knowing the rules and passed on Shinkaruk.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby SKYO » Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:10 pm

xtr3m wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:Sportsnet Pacific
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#Canucks have added John Weisbrod to the Hockey Operations staff as Vice President, Player Personnel.

Don't know anything about him really.


He was part of the team that offer sheeted ROR without knowing the rules and passed on Shinkaruk.


Sean Monahan was a homerun pick though and a lot of teams passed on Shink.
Klimchuk seems to be ok, and Emile Poirier was a risk for sure, but he just needs to work on his skating... https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/buzzi ... 12362.html
Feaster was the brains behind ROR, even ryan's agent didn't know about that waiver rule.

Anyways a bit of a reach to add Weisbrod to that Feaster mess in Calgary as Weisbrod is more a scout guy and offering solutions, Gilman is the contract/cap/money master so need to need worry about those absurd offersheet situations plus JB said iirc he doesn't plan on using those(offersheets).
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby sagebrush » Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:23 pm

http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Kuzma ... story.html
Weisbrod wasn’t afraid to suggest moves and make them.

Bold moves indeed.

When with the NBA Orlando Magic Weisbrod orchestrated a mega trade with Houston which went poorly for the Magic, & resulted in death threats from fans.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby SKYO » Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:39 pm

sagebrush wrote:http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Kuzma+Former+Bruin+Weisbrod+worth+look+Canucks/9886592/story.html
Weisbrod wasn’t afraid to suggest moves and make them.

Bold moves indeed.

When with the NBA Orlando Magic Weisbrod orchestrated a mega trade with Houston which went poorly for the Magic, & resulted in death threats from fans.


werdup hard to compare the NBA to NHL though.

ALL THAT MATTERS is the success he had with Benning & Chiarelli prior, as that is the working relationship that we have now for this team.

So, it stands to reason that John Weisbrod, one of the architects of the Bruins’ championship in 2011, would be of interest to new Canucks general manager Jim Benning, the former Boston assistant general manager. It’s already been suggested by Bob McKenzie that Weisbrod will be on board here as an AGM.

After a season of scouting for the Dallas Stars, Weisbrod joined the Bruins as a pro scout in September, 2006 and after two years in that position became the club’s director of collegiate scouting for three years.

During his tenure, the Bruins acquired collegiate defenceman Matt Bartkowski and blueliner Dennis Seidenberg in 2010 from Florida in exchange for Byron Bitz, Craig Weller and a second-round draft pick.

They traded for Gregory Campbell in same year after landing Johnny Boychuk in 2008 and Adam McQuaid in 2007.

http://blogs.theprovince.com/2014/05/22 ... he-jockey/
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby herb » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:06 pm

Lorne Henning is listed as Vice President, Player Personnel & Assistant General Manager.

Is old Lorne being given the boot?

http://canucks.nhl.com/club/page.htm?bcid=614
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Southern_Canuck » Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:51 pm

The guy that insisted on drafting Mark Jankowski in the 1st round in 2012 is now in charge of Canucks' scouting?

That's really great.

I know, I know - at least they traded down from 14 to 21 and avoided drafting:

Zemgus Girgensons
Cody Ceci
Tom Wilson
Tomas Hertl
Teuvo Teravainen
Andrei Vasilevski
Scott Laughton

And afterwards Weisbrod boasted that Jankowski was going to be the best player taken in the 2012 draft. Yep, really great.

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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby SKYO » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:01 pm

Oh he's in charge of drafting?
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Southern_Canuck » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:07 pm

VP Player Personnel = "in charge of drafting"

Definitely has me a little concerned - however, can the Canucks get a lot worse at amateur drafting? They are already a little worse than mediocre...

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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby SKYO » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:53 pm

Gilman/Crawford/Benning will do a fine and dandy job of scouting/drafting imho.

VP Weisbrod will in all likelihood help out in the war room for potential trades & college scouting plus bounce around ideals to get this team some decent transactions.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby ClamRussel » Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:13 pm

This guy traded for Steve Francis!
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby sagebrush » Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:17 pm

Weisbrod's resume includes some major gaffs.

Calculated risks may be required to expedite progress, but without good homework and judgment, that turns into reckless gambling. Here's hoping that Weisbrod learned from his experience.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Hank » Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:31 pm

ClamRussel wrote:This guy traded for Steve Francis!


duh oh! :wow:
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby dbr » Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:45 am

SKYO wrote:
xtr3m wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:Sportsnet Pacific
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#Canucks have added John Weisbrod to the Hockey Operations staff as Vice President, Player Personnel.

Don't know anything about him really.


He was part of the team that offer sheeted ROR without knowing the rules and passed on Shinkaruk.


Sean Monahan was a homerun pick though and a lot of teams passed on Shink.
Klimchuk seems to be ok, and Emile Poirier was a risk for sure, but he just needs to work on his skating... https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/buzzi ... 12362.html
Feaster was the brains behind ROR, even ryan's agent didn't know about that waiver rule.

Anyways a bit of a reach to add Weisbrod to that Feaster mess in Calgary as Weisbrod is more a scout guy and offering solutions, Gilman is the contract/cap/money master so need to need worry about those absurd offersheet situations plus JB said iirc he doesn't plan on using those(offersheets).


Tod Button was in charge of the 2013 draft, Flames senior brass were so insensed with Weisbrod's work at the previous draft that he lost his responsibilities in that area.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby dbr » Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:49 am

xtr3m wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:Sportsnet Pacific
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#Canucks have added John Weisbrod to the Hockey Operations staff as Vice President, Player Personnel.

Don't know anything about him really.


He was part of the team that offer sheeted ROR without knowing the rules


Yeah. If he had ANY responsibility for crossing T's and dotting I's with the Flames organization then this should be grounds for never being given decision making power with a pro sports franchise ever again.

However given his CV includes time as GM of an NBA team and his last job appeared to be making crazy claims about 17 year old project players, I'm guessing he's more of an "idea man."

Here's hoping that either Benning knows how to work with Weisbrod's limitations and he can be productive here, or they are just good friends and this is another example of nepotism in action in this franchise and he'll have little in the way of real responsibility.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby herb » Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:59 am

dbr wrote:Here's hoping that either Benning knows how to work with Weisbrod's limitations and he can be productive here, or they are just good friends and this is another example of nepotism in action in this franchise and he'll have little in the way of real responsibility.


LOL

Too true Dave, too true.
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