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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Meds » Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:55 pm

Topper wrote:Interested to know how much the "missing the playoffs is not an option" was directed at the coaching staff as well as the players.


Most likely this was directed at Gillis on down.

Gillis has probably been told that missing the playoffs isn't an option or it's his ass for over-selling the team to Aquaman.

Gillis is passing that along to his reset button and also dumping it on the players.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Meds » Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:58 pm

RoyalDude wrote:Interesting times for Mike Gillis, he re-tools, the core gets angry, what does the whimp do, let players run the team or himself? Bold Moves vs The Process? What will it be? Stay tuned, this is getting real good!


If he's unwilling to admit to himself that this team has failed to pass the process then he needs to be shown the door. Being a wimp will have nothing to do with this, it will have to do with whether or not he's too proud to admit that he needs to correct a few mistakes.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby sagebrush » Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:31 pm

Owners want play off revenue, but acquiring rentals to make the playoffs usually undermines the team's future.

It's going to be interesting to see the changes resulting from dissapointing results. Anyone can steer the boat when it's calm. Now we get to see what Gillis is made of.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby herb » Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:38 pm

So the Canucks can't score goals.

Why then have we not seen 2011 draft pick Alexandre Grenier, who is the Comets' second leading scorer?
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Strangelove » Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:33 pm

I'd say it's pretty obvious that Gillis is looking to trade one of our core dee to a contender for a young forward.

Might have to take a cap-dump back if that forward is on an entry-level deal.

Might have to throw in a first round pick or a player like Hansen.

Veteran top 4 dee signed to good contracts are hard to come by.

Maybe some team that is desperate for their perceived shot at the Cup?

The likely trade candidate....

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But probably any one of the other top-4 dee are available... if The Price is Right.

Gillis can't force a fair trade though, if it doesn't appear, it doesn't happen.

I mean: He's not the type to crap his pants and make a panic move.

Even if the wops were threatening to can him, he's not going to trade for the sake of trading.

So solid move or no move says I, and it's beyond the control of just Gillis.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Topper » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:18 pm

Strangelove wrote:Even if the wops were threatening to can him, he's not going to trade for the sake of trading.

Unless the head of one of Tortorellas dogs ends up in his bed.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby SKYO » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:44 pm

Topper wrote:
Strangelove wrote:Even if the wops were threatening to can him, he's not going to trade for the sake of trading.

Unless the head of one of Tortorellas dogs ends up in his bed.

LOL agreed

I think MG's demands have been unusually high for a return on a trade, he needs to lower his expectations just a tad in potential deal.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Hockey Widow » Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:09 pm

I would love to know the truth about the alleged Detroit deal for Edler. Was this another blown opportunity or just a trade for potentials that was turned down? Just think, if MG had traded Luongo BEFORE the new CBA the team would be off the hook for any future cap recapture, I.e. Nash. The one grandfathering of front load contracts.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby givemeda411 » Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:09 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:I would love to know the truth about the alleged Detroit deal for Edler. Was this another blown opportunity or just a trade for potentials that was turned down? Just think, if MG had traded Luongo BEFORE the new CBA the team would be off the hook for any future cap recapture, I.e. Nash. The one grandfathering of front load contracts.


Someone I know close to management is saying Vancouver wants Mantha and Smith for Edler now.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Hockey Widow » Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:18 pm

Anthony Mantha

Val' Dor

Right wing

6'0. 190lbs

Shoots left

42 games played

43 goals

47 assists

90 points

+18

Ok, get er done
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby rats19 » Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:24 pm

All this stuff makes the mind swim...
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby RoyalDude » Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:04 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:Anthony Mantha

Val' Dor

Right wing

6'0. 190lbs

Shoots left

42 games played

43 goals

47 assists

90 points

+18

Ok, get er done


6'0"??? Try 6'5"

Love this kids game. Impressed with what I saw of him at the WJC'S. Smith and Mantha would be great additions the 'next' group here. Get er done
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby sagebrush » Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:09 pm

Brendan Smith:
27th overall in 2007 draft
D, shoots left
6-2, 198
45 NHL GP in 13/14 season, (-5)
excellent skater, & a PP QB

Anthony Mantha:
20th overall in 2013 draft
RW, shoots left
6-4, 190 (hockeydb)

Good luck Gillis.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby SKYO » Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:48 pm

That's who they want, but they ain't getting Mantha imo.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Canuck-One » Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:40 am

We always hear about trades for this guy or that guy and some of them sound great. Then when a trade is made it's for a 4th line plugger going one way and an under sized soft D coming back. Rumours abound but nothing ever seems to materialize that actually helps this team. Stanton is the only player MG has traded for (who is still here), that seems to have played up to expectations. Kassian may one day blossom but so far he just teases. It has to be a difficult task to trade for someone who will jump start your team. Are we over rating the players we have and therefore can't get anything of value back? We have some serious gaps up front that need filling and I doubt Gillis can do the job in one fell swoop.

Sedin - Sedin - ______
_____ - Kesler - Kassian
Higgins - ____ - Hansen
Sestito - _____ - ______

When healthy we have a capable crew on D but need a big mean sob added to the mix who makes whomsoever gets too close to Roberto pay the price.

Hamhuis - Garrison

Edler - Bieksa

Tanev - Stanton

Diaz

So our D is our strength but who goes if someone has to? It looks like Edler is the easy first choice but will one player fill the holes? I doubt it. It's beginning to look more and more like UFA's but will they come if Gillis begins blowing up the team? Most payers are in it to win and the money while good is going to come anyway, so why not sign with a serious contender and Vancouver simply isn't right now.
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