Arachnid wrote:I dunno Doc, you're argument and evidence is pretty weak...while I agree the Princess is overvalued your point of reference is January 2012 (Or October, for that matter)...flash forward I don't think Ovi & him are playing as bad as they were back then...
Doc is too busy reading articles that are over 1 year old. He doesn't have a clue what's going on currently.
Meanwhile Mr Phaneuf was never considered to be an elite player.
For example, Mr Ovechkin is invited to participate in what will be his 3rd Winter Olympic Games next month.
How many Winter Olympic Games has your Mr Phaneuf been invited to... Todd?
Many NHLers considered Phaneuf overrated as an above-average NHL defenseman
... on APRIL 3, 2010, JANUARY 5 2012, and OCTOBER 3, 2013.
So players consider Phaneuf "overrated" in the past 3 years, so what? Sure, he's not an elite player like Weber/Chara, but he's still a top D-man in the league. He probably won't make the Canadian Olympic squad cuz we're generally pretty stacked with a lot of good players @ the D position. If Phaneuf was not a Canadian, he'd probably make any other country's olympic team. U turn around and ask any NHL player (any GM for that matter) if they would take Phaneuf on their team? I'm sure they take would him in a heartbeat.
Also, Phaneuf is a player built for the NHL, olympics not so much. He's proably not the best skater, which is not good on the olympic ice surface; however, his combination of size, skill, grit and leadership is exactly what u want for a team that wants to go deep into the NHL playoffs.
Blob Mckenzie wrote:^^^^Hamhuis is a far better player than Phaneuf^^^^ and lol at the other comparison between Edler and Phaneuf.
I luv Hammer, but I'd take Dion over Dan. They're both very good defensively, but will make some mistakes once and awhile. Hammer is more of the quiet type/lead by example, while Phaneuf is more vocal. They're both pretty close overall, but I give the edge to Dion cuz of his size. We all know what happened to Hammer when he tried to play physical vs a big strong guy Lucic; Dion on the other hand can handle the rough/physical stuff no probs. Phaneuf also has a cannon of a shot, while Hammer is more of a close range shooter.
edit: I'd like to add Dion was an offensive juggernaut when he first came into the league. He scored like 20G as a rookie blueliner and had like 60P in his 3rd year. He struggled for a bit in Calgary after and in TO they seem to use him more as a shut-down/big minutes guy as they have other guys who can play the PP. There was talk early on, who would u rather have as your franchise player? a top young scorer like Crosby or a stud D-man like Phaneuf. It was close @ one time. Phaneuf has skillz that are not fully utilized, just sayin.
Lastly, I won't mind seeing and hearing about Elisha out and about in town. <3