Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

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To me, it's still the NMC.. those handcuff GM's, and should,only be handed out To franchise players.
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Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:41 pm

It's great that it was front-loaded, which is the way wealthier teams should structure long-term contracts to older players.

On the very day Loui was signed I pointed that out.
How is that a benefit? yes, he is a bit cheaper to trade, as his salary is less. But, his contract is almost buyout proof as well. At this moment, I would prefer the buyout if his salary was flat with no signing bonuses.
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One issue NHL/NHLPA need to deal with quickly, as in probably today, is Signing Bonus💰 due to players on July 1 (Wednesday). There’s $300+ million scheduled to be paid out that day. There have been discussions to defer the date, but no agreement. Not yet anyway.
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Tciso wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:42 pm
Strangelove wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:41 pm

It's great that it was front-loaded, which is the way wealthier teams should structure long-term contracts to older players.

On the very day Loui was signed I pointed that out.
How is that a benefit? yes, he is a bit cheaper to trade, as his salary is less.

But, his contract is almost buyout proof as well. At this moment, I would prefer the buyout if his salary was flat with no signing bonuses.
If Loui's contract was "flat with no signing bonuses", the team to which he is traded is on the hook for $12M in real dollars.

But because the contract is front-loaded, that team would only be on the hook for $5M in real dollars (post signing bonus).

YUGE

The attached sweetener required would be so much less...

If Loui's contract was "flat with no signing bonuses", the cap-hit for buying him out right now would be $2M per year X 4 years.

That simply would not work for your Vancouver Canucks...
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Strangelove wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:07 pm
Tciso wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:42 pm
Strangelove wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:41 pm

It's great that it was front-loaded, which is the way wealthier teams should structure long-term contracts to older players.

On the very day Loui was signed I pointed that out.
How is that a benefit? yes, he is a bit cheaper to trade, as his salary is less.

But, his contract is almost buyout proof as well. At this moment, I would prefer the buyout if his salary was flat with no signing bonuses.
If Loui's contract was "flat with no signing bonuses", the team to which he is traded is on the hook for $12M in real dollars.

But because the contract is front-loaded, that team would only be on the hook for $5M in real dollars (post signing bonus).

YUGE

The attached sweetener required would be so much less...

If Loui's contract was "flat with no signing bonuses", the cap-hit for buying him out right now would be $2M per year X 4 years.

That simply would not work for your Vancouver Canucks...
A cheapskate owner like Melnyk would be telling Dorion to trade for him in a heart-beat. Maybe cost-conscious Pegula would be interested in his sock-puppet grabbing him.
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Chris Pronger quits or got chopped off due to money with the Panthers. He’s a bright guy, always struck me as someone who wanted to run a team. I think Viola is slashing and burning everything. Pronger will resurface as a GM. Ditto for Ron Hextall who is an advisor for the Kings. He did most of the heavy lifting for the Kings before he went to Philly. A good chunk of that team that is on the rise is due to Hexy. These guys are at the top of the line for GM candidates in the NHL.

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Travis Hamonic first player to opt out on the return to play. Cited family reasons.
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Travis Hamonic first player to opt out on the return to play. Cited family reasons.
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Doyle Hargraves wrote:
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Chris Pronger quits or got chopped off due to money with the Panthers. He’s a bright guy, always struck me as someone who wanted to run a team. I think Viola is slashing and burning everything. Pronger will resurface as a GM. Ditto for Ron Hextall who is an advisor for the Kings. He did most of the heavy lifting for the Kings before he went to Philly. A good chunk of that team that is on the rise is due to Hexy. These guys are at the top of the line for GM candidates in the NHL.

Lindy Ruff is going to NJ. LMFAO give him the needle already.
Gillis is a bright guy too, what exactly has Pronger proven at the Management level other than being a Senior Advisor to the Panthers since 2017? Prior to that he worked for the NHL for 3 years in the players safety division.
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Brian Burke had no experience in management when he came to work for a few years with Pat Quinn. Within three years he was GM of the Whalers and drafted the best player in the 93 draft.

You probably hate Pronger for being a mean motherfucker when he played.
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Doyle Hargraves wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:32 am
Brian Burke had no experience in management when he came to work for a few years with Pat Quinn. Within three years he was GM of the Whalers and drafted the best player in the 93 draft.

You probably hate Pronger for being a mean motherfucker when he played.
Burke was mentored under Pat Quinn for a few years prior to getting the Hartford gig
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Chef Boi RD wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:45 am
Doyle Hargraves wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:32 am
Brian Burke had no experience in management when he came to work for a few years with Pat Quinn. Within three years he was GM of the Whalers and drafted the best player in the 93 draft.

You probably hate Pronger for being a mean motherfucker when he played.
Burke was mentored under Pat Quinn for a few years prior to getting the Hartford gig
Thanks for repeating what I just said. Pronger worked very closely with Cup winning GM Dale Tallon.
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2017–18 82 44 30 8 96 4th in Atlantic division. Did not qualify for playoffs

2018–19 82 36 32 14 86 5th in Atlantic Division Did not qualify for the playoffs

2019–20 69 35 26 8 78 4th in the Atlantic division TBD

Since being hired in 2017 the Panthers have not made the playoffs and have been in nosedive since the hiring of Senior Advisor - Pronger
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Yes the team struggling is all because of him. Care to post Vancouver‘s record for the first three years Burke and Quinn were in Vancouver?

Lol you are triggered because you hate good, mean tough players. And he’s a Canadian as well so that’s another thing you hate. Imagine if he was from BC.
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To be honest, it's pretty difficult criticizing other team's management or individuals when the Canucks are being run by Benning and Weisbrod.

It's like when some Canucks fans troll or shit on the Bruins and Marchand. They have a Cup while the Canucks and their fans have first round Game 7s versus the Flames and Blackhawks and Game8s against the Bruins to celebrate. Nice history.

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