Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

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Hockey Widow wrote:
SKYO wrote:Devils fire their head coach Pete DeBoer on Boxing Day..

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/new-j ... te-deboer/

Tough to happen this time of year I guess but not a surprise that it happened. Wonder how CS feels playing in the basement? Well good I guess since he did get his contract. Another team that likes vets and doesn't have a ton in the system. Wonder if Lou's magic has finally worn off.
They make the Canucks look like a youth movement. That's not a veteran team, it's a seniors centre. They are nearly 2 years older, on average, than any other team (NJ is 30.44 years, Nashville is next at 28.6... Vancouver is 4th at 28.5). Their best player is less than 2 years younger than our President of Hockey Ops...

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Island Nucklehead wrote: (Vancouver is 4th at 28.5).
Just wondering where you got that number and which players are included.

If we traded Burrows for a draft pick, would the Canucks be among the 10 youngest teams?

BTW I read that Canucks average age is 27.7.

Not trying to start a fight, please don't knock this bag of ice off my head.

(I've been making rather merry)

Just curious, a lot of people seem to say Canucks are an old team, not sure if I completely agree.

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Strangelove wrote:
Island Nucklehead wrote: (Vancouver is 4th at 28.5).
Just wondering where you got that number and which players are included.

If we traded Burrows for a draft pick, would the Canucks be among the 10 youngest teams?

BTW I read that Canucks average age is 27.7.

Not trying to start a fight, please don't knock this bag of ice off my head.

(I've been making rather merry)

Just curious, a lot of people seem to say Canucks are an old team, not sure if I completely agree.
http://www.quanthockey.com/TS/TS_Averag ... TeamCharts

Got if from here.
Analysis only takes into account players who are part of the current roster
And just looking at the numbers, we're not that far out of whack with a good chunk of the league. You'll notice the Devils, however, are clearly much older than the rest. I do think it can be an overrated measurement (average age) of a teams chances of success, but it's hard to argue when a team like Jersey is a solid 2 years older (on average) than any other NHL team. Their average forward is 6 years older than the Average forward on Columbus (31.4 vs 25.5) .
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Island Nucklehead wrote: http://www.quanthockey.com/TS/TS_Averag ... TeamCharts

Got if from here.
Ah yes, good site, I have QH bookmarked and have linked there myself in the past.

I like that he takes the month born into account...

I just now added the listed ages of the Canucks 637 and divided by 23 = 27.7 - so not as exact as QH but...

... for fun, subtract 33-year-old Burr from the roster and replace with 21-year-old Jensen...

So now it's 625 divided by 23 = 27.2 = younger than average team.

I like that QH does a weighted average as well.

Weighted by the number of games each player has played.

You would think it wouldn't be much to weight it by number of minutes played, but oh well.

In any event, you're right of course about the Devs being ridiculously old.

Subtract 28-year-old Schneider and replace him with 19-year-old Horvat = still ridiculously old. :wink:
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Strangelove wrote: In any event, you're right of course about the Devs being ridiculously old.
Yeah that graph really does show out out of line they are compared to the rest of the league.

Speaking of veteran, declining players, Derek Roy was placed on waivers by the Predators today. Dude's only 31 (he'd be a young pup on the Devils), but has just 1 goal (10 points) in 26 games on the season.
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5thhorseman wrote:Heatley placed on waivers ...

http://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/ducks-plac ... -1.2165334/
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Topper wrote:
5thhorseman wrote:Heatley placed on waivers ...

http://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/ducks-plac ... -1.2165334/
Just the sort of veteran leadership and driving force I would expect McTavish to pursue.
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Island Nucklehead wrote:Speaking of veteran, declining players, Derek Roy was placed on waivers by the Predators today. Dude's only 31 (he'd be a young pup on the Devils), but has just 1 goal (10 points) in 26 games on the season.
And the Oilers traded for him lol for centre Mark Arcobello.

They put Pinz on waivers and claimed Fraser.
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Rather than claim Roy on waivers, they traded for him. Go figure!

The Oilers: the gift that keeps on giving!

Roy should really help turn things around. My guess is they send Draisaitl back down to juniors after the WJCs (why in the world would they want Leon to lead Germany, after all?).
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Arcobello was their 3rd highest goal scorer. From what I recall of his games vs Vancouver, he was one of the more responsible kids they had.

Good for him to get away.
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herb wrote:Rather than claim Roy on waivers, they traded for him. Go figure!

The Oilers: the gift that keeps on giving!

Roy should really help turn things around. My guess is they send Draisaitl back down to juniors after the WJCs (why in the world would they want Leon to lead Germany, after all?).

Why would they do that?
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Because they are buffoons.

This is Feaster O'Reilly offer sheet stupidity level.
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Hockey Widow wrote:
herb wrote:Rather than claim Roy on waivers, they traded for him. Go figure!

The Oilers: the gift that keeps on giving!

Roy should really help turn things around. My guess is they send Draisaitl back down to juniors after the WJCs (why in the world would they want Leon to lead Germany, after all?).

Why would they do that?
Some speculation that they wanted to shed a contract, or that some of Roy's salary ($1M lol) was retained. I find it real tough to believe they couldn't have gotten a 5th-7th round pick for Arcobello. At 26, it seems like he's still got something to give.

On the plus side for the Oilers, Roy weighs more than Arcobello, so they can actually claim to be getting bigger (just not taller) by acquiring Derek Roy.
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