Can you really blame him?Island Nucklehead wrote:Surprised BigTuna hasn't been in here posting this...
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Can you really blame him?Island Nucklehead wrote:Surprised BigTuna hasn't been in here posting this...
Is it too much when the cap goes up $6M next season and who knows what the following season?Island Nucklehead wrote:Surprised BigTuna hasn't been in here posting this... but the leaves sign Phaneuf for 7 years and $49M. The Laufs didn't have much choice, couldn't let him go for nothing, and selling him at the deadline wouldn't play well with the faithful... but damn, that seems like a lot for Phaneuf. He becomes the 5th highest cap-hit for d-men next season.
I just don't think Phaneuf is a guy to build your franchise around. I think he's a valuable player, but not a minute-crushing all-round, franchise No.1. I think he's more Edler than Chara/Weber.Reefer2 wrote: Is it too much when the cap goes up $6M next season and who knows what the following season?
You thinks does you?Todd Bersnoozi wrote: Not a bad signing me thinks.
http://web.archive.org/web/201004061012 ... story.html
APRIL 3, 2010
Dion Phaneuf Demmed Most Overrated Player in the NHL by Peers
Feedback for the Sports Illustrated poll didn’t come from media boobs or Internet ninnies. Rather, it was Phaneuf’s peers — 272 of them, a third of the league — who voted on the topic.
And the title went to Phaneuf in a landslide.
Phaneuf drew 21 per cent of the nods. Next was New York Rangers defender Wade Redden, who got seven per cent. Rounding out the top five were Montreal Canadiens centre Scott Gomez (six), Rangers winger Sean Avery (five) and Edmonton Oilers centre Shawn Horcoff (five).
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multim ... ent.1.html
JANUARY 5 2012
NHL Players Poll: Dion Phaneuf is the Most Overrated Player in the NHL
1. Dion Phaneuf, Toronto Maple leaves D 20%
2. Alex Ovechkin, Washington Capitals LW 8%
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/97646 ... n-magazine
OCTOBER 3, 2013
ESPN Player Poll Crowns Phaneuf the Most Overrated Player in the NHL in a Landslide
Dion Phaneuf 13%
Henrik Lundqvist 6.7%
Carl Hagelin 3.3%
*LOL* We just had this discussion on another thread.Strangelove wrote:You thinks does you?Todd Bersnoozi wrote: Not a bad signing me thinks.
I would add he has a cannon of a shot, logs a ton of minutes and he's a fierce competitor/leader on the ice. I wonder if u want to go @ it with your budz.dbr wrote:For all his flaws he (Dion) is probably the most appealing defenseman headed into free agency: young, durable, physical, capable of putting up points and for all of his deserved scorn as a moron out on the ice he does pretty well in pretty tough matchups defensively.
Not sure why would u link this poll, fuckin Einstein man. If we had Ovi, he'd easily be our best forward. Hell, if we had Dion, he'd easily be our #1 D-man. I think I'd still go:StrangeOne wrote:http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multim ... ent.1.html
JANUARY 5 2012
NHL Players Poll: Dion Phaneuf is the Most Overrated Player in the NHL
1. Dion Phaneuf, Toronto Maple leaves D 20%
2. Alex Ovechkin, Washington Capitals LW 8%
I dunno Doc, you're argument and evidence is pretty weak...while I agree the Princess is overvalued your point of reference is January 2012 (Or October, for that matter)...flash forward I don't think Ovi & him are playing as bad as they were back then...Strangelove wrote:You thinks does you?Todd Bersnoozi wrote: Not a bad signing me thinks.
http://web.archive.org/web/201004061012 ... story.html
APRIL 3, 2010
Dion Phaneuf Demmed Most Overrated Player in the NHL by Peers
Feedback for the Sports Illustrated poll didn’t come from media boobs or Internet ninnies. Rather, it was Phaneuf’s peers — 272 of them, a third of the league — who voted on the topic.
And the title went to Phaneuf in a landslide.
Phaneuf drew 21 per cent of the nods. Next was New York Rangers defender Wade Redden, who got seven per cent. Rounding out the top five were Montreal Canadiens centre Scott Gomez (six), Rangers winger Sean Avery (five) and Edmonton Oilers centre Shawn Horcoff (five).http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multim ... ent.1.html
JANUARY 5 2012
NHL Players Poll: Dion Phaneuf is the Most Overrated Player in the NHL
1. Dion Phaneuf, Toronto Maple leaves D 20%
2. Alex Ovechkin, Washington Capitals LW 8%http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/97646 ... n-magazine
OCTOBER 3, 2013
ESPN Player Poll Crowns Phaneuf the Most Overrated Player in the NHL in a Landslide
Dion Phaneuf 13%
Henrik Lundqvist 6.7%
Carl Hagelin 3.3%
I'm quite sure my buddy Dave would agree with my one and only point... Todd.Todd Bersnoozi wrote:I would add he has a cannon of a shot, logs a ton of minutes and he's a fierce competitor/leader on the ice. I wonder if u want to go @ it with your budz.dbr wrote:For all his flaws he (Dion) is probably the most appealing defenseman headed into free agency: young, durable, physical, capable of putting up points and for all of his deserved scorn as a moron out on the ice he does pretty well in pretty tough matchups defensively.
Well you see Todd, folks like Einstein and yours truly understand the definition of the word...Todd Bersnoozi wrote:Not sure why would u link this poll, fuckin Einstein man. If we had Ovi, he'd easily be our best forward.Strangelove wrote:http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multim ... ent.1.html
JANUARY 5 2012
NHL Players Poll: Dion Phaneuf is the Most Overrated Player in the NHL
1. Dion Phaneuf, Toronto Maple leaves D 20%
2. Alex Ovechkin, Washington Capitals LW 8%
Well that's just stupid....Todd Bersnoozi wrote: Dion @ $7M > Edler @ $5M
Ummmmmmmmmm......Arachnid wrote: I dunno Doc, you're argument and evidence is pretty weak.
is the sound of my slapshot whizzing by your head as you waste your waining life energy on trivial pursuits...Strangelove wrote:Ummmmmmmmmm......Arachnid wrote: I dunno Doc, you're argument and evidence is pretty weak.
whooosh
And it's "your".
Doc is too busy reading articles that are over 1 year old. He doesn't have a clue what's going on currently.Arachnid wrote:I dunno Doc, you're argument and evidence is pretty weak...while I agree the Princess is overvalued your point of reference is January 2012 (Or October, for that matter)...flash forward I don't think Ovi & him are playing as bad as they were back then...
So players consider Phaneuf "overrated" in the past 3 years, so what? Sure, he's not an elite player like Weber/Chara, but he's still a top D-man in the league. He probably won't make the Canadian Olympic squad cuz we're generally pretty stacked with a lot of good players @ the D position. If Phaneuf was not a Canadian, he'd probably make any other country's olympic team. U turn around and ask any NHL player (any GM for that matter) if they would take Phaneuf on their team? I'm sure they take would him in a heartbeat.Strangelove wrote:
Meanwhile Mr Phaneuf was never considered to be an elite player.
For example, Mr Ovechkin is invited to participate in what will be his 3rd Winter Olympic Games next month.
How many Winter Olympic Games has your Mr Phaneuf been invited to... Todd?
Many NHLers considered Phaneuf overrated as an above-average NHL defenseman
... on APRIL 3, 2010, JANUARY 5 2012, and OCTOBER 3, 2013.
I luv Hammer, but I'd take Dion over Dan. They're both very good defensively, but will make some mistakes once and awhile. Hammer is more of the quiet type/lead by example, while Phaneuf is more vocal. They're both pretty close overall, but I give the edge to Dion cuz of his size. We all know what happened to Hammer when he tried to play physical vs a big strong guy Lucic; Dion on the other hand can handle the rough/physical stuff no probs. Phaneuf also has a cannon of a shot, while Hammer is more of a close range shooter.Blob Mckenzie wrote:^^^^Hamhuis is a far better player than Phaneuf^^^^ and lol at the other comparison between Edler and Phaneuf.