Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by SKYO » Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:00 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:How can one constantly moan about Sutters contract but never moaned once about the 4 million plus contracts bought out by the Aquaman - Booths and Ballards, thanks to Mike Gill-eyes bold manoeuvres
I said they were bad contracts a year after they were acquired. Sutters been here for a year and it's also a bad contract. So is Burrows deal and a couple others here. I could say the same about your refusal to admit the Sbisa and Dosett contracts were putrid.
Sbisa and Dorsett's contracts I can understand, but Sutter doesn't even get a chance to play thanks to injuries & you're shitting on him. :scowl:

Dorsett at least is one of the teams relentless workers out there though, playing through pain in all, dudes a pitbull, I'll bet if we get a Lucic, it'll only add to our new found badass grit, may not win every game, but shit man, at least we won't be pushovers, that I can live with, just a team that gives a damn and smashes people.

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Island Nucklehead » Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:17 am

Strangelove wrote: BTW as of this moment Bonino is 10th in goal scoring among forwards on the Pens in the playoffs
He's also 2nd in SH TOI/G amongst forwards.
3rd in Pts/60.
1st in Primary assists.
2nd in blocked shots (1st amongst forwards).
1st in +/-.
And he's tied with Crosby and Malkin in scoring.
RoyalDude wrote:Bonino phones it in the playoffs
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by RoyalDude » Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:39 am

Bonino displayed the same heart he is showing now in the playoffs as he did against the Flames last year, exactly. He wore the Canuck jersey with pride.

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Blob Mckenzie » Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:56 am

Bonino has 32 points in 52 career playoff games. Sutter has 12 points in 33 career playoff games.

But Sutter is the clutch player. :lol: :lol: :D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nick Bonino - 1.9 million
Brandon Sutter - 4.4 million. LOL
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by micky107 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:00 am

Island Nucklehead wrote:
Strangelove wrote: BTW as of this moment Bonino is 10th in goal scoring among forwards on the Pens in the playoffs
He's also 2nd in SH TOI/G amongst forwards.
3rd in Pts/60.
1st in Primary assists.
2nd in blocked shots (1st amongst forwards).
1st in +/-.
And he's tied with Crosby and Malkin in scoring.
RoyalDude wrote:Bonino phones it in the playoffs
:lol:
Yup. If I had my druthers, Bonino would still be here and Sbisa would be gone if I had to choose one of the,
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Honestly though, I would have liked to see Bonino on this up and coming new team of ours... :scowl:
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by RoyalDude » Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:46 am

Bonino was a warrior against the Flames. Beast Mode. A great example in the Canuck room. He never phones it in, heart is always in it as like we saw against the Flames. I miss that big time
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by SKYO » Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:39 am

I don't know of a luckier player than Bonino.

From playing in the playoffs in Anaheim with Getzlaf and Perry


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to playing with Crosby, Malkin and playoff MVP Kessel, Bones the Bozak of the squad.


The Bmo of Nas/Bert.

In Vancouver Bonino had Burrows and Higgins, ffs that was an atrocious 2nd line. Bones needs superstar players to be effective, he sure as fuck wasn't gonna get that here compared to the Penguins and Ducks.

And without megastar wingers behind the Sedins, Sutter is just a better fit, as he has a better toolbox than Bones, more speed and can carry a 2nd better than Bones can.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Arachnid » Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:15 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote:Bonino has 32 points in 52 career playoff games. Sutter has 12 points in 33 career playoff games.

But Sutter is the clutch player. :lol: :lol: :D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nick Bonino - 1.9 million
Brandon Sutter - 4.4 million. LOL
Yeah brings to mind paying Raymond 2.5 for 8 measly points during the Cup run and non-playoff impact :roll:
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by micky107 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:07 am

Arachnid wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:Bonino has 32 points in 52 career playoff games. Sutter has 12 points in 33 career playoff games.

But Sutter is the clutch player. :lol: :lol: :D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nick Bonino - 1.9 million
Brandon Sutter - 4.4 million. LOL
Yeah brings to mind paying Raymond 2.5 for 8 measly points during the Cup run and non-playoff impact :roll:
Don't really have a problem with Sutter, yet, but haven't seen enough of him here and 4.4 is a lot if he's just going to be what he was in Pittsburg. If he grows a mean streak and can take charge of his own line, great.
However in his tenure in Pittsburg, he was rather surrounded with super stars too.
Nick wasn't so bad. Admit he could have brought it more often in the regular season but he aint as bad, in that regard, as Sbisa... :hmmm:
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Hockey Widow » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:18 am

I was so done with Bonino when he was here. As a second line centre our lack of depth showed. As a third line centre on an otherwise stacked team he looks like a superman.

But if all you want to compare is contracts......
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Island Nucklehead » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:32 am

Hockey Widow wrote:I was so done with Bonino when he was here. As a second line centre our lack of depth showed. As a third line centre on an otherwise stacked team he looks like a superman.

But if all you want to compare is contracts......
Bonino's a solid distributor, far better at using his line mates than Sutter. He won't anchor a line, but he's effective when you put him with good players. He was a .5PPG player here, regular season and playoffs. We were spoiled with those years of Kesler anchoring the 2nd line, but I'm not sure what people expected out of Bonino when he was here. He's been a better 3rd line C in Pittsburgh than Sutter was. Bonino is the more productive player and obviously picks up his game come playoff time and even playing with defensively questionable players like Kessel he's not a liability defensively. The contract just makes it all the more obvious that Pittsburgh smashed that deal out of the park.

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by damonberryman » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:04 pm

Island Nucklehead wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:I was so done with Bonino when he was here. As a second line centre our lack of depth showed. As a third line centre on an otherwise stacked team he looks like a superman.

But if all you want to compare is contracts......
Bonino's a solid distributor, far better at using his line mates than Sutter. He won't anchor a line, but he's effective when you put him with good players. He was a .5PPG player here, regular season and playoffs. We were spoiled with those years of Kesler anchoring the 2nd line, but I'm not sure what people expected out of Bonino when he was here. He's been a better 3rd line C in Pittsburgh than Sutter was. Bonino is the more productive player and obviously picks up his game come playoff time and even playing with defensively questionable players like Kessel he's not a liability defensively. The contract just makes it all the more obvious that Pittsburgh smashed that deal out of the park.
I do not get how you write off Sutter given the year he had with injuries. Give it a fucking rest already. For fuck sake, some of you argue these fucking points till the paint comes off. Get a life or come up with less predictable topics. Shit. I do not even have to look to see who is the source of half this thread. Same old song every fucking time. Shut up all of you predictable pricks. Benning has more hockey sense than all of us put together but he ain't God. Everyone makes mistakes. Check out your mothers for having some of you.

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Island Nucklehead » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:27 pm

damonberryman wrote:
Island Nucklehead wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:I was so done with Bonino when he was here. As a second line centre our lack of depth showed. As a third line centre on an otherwise stacked team he looks like a superman.

But if all you want to compare is contracts......
Bonino's a solid distributor, far better at using his line mates than Sutter. He won't anchor a line, but he's effective when you put him with good players. He was a .5PPG player here, regular season and playoffs. We were spoiled with those years of Kesler anchoring the 2nd line, but I'm not sure what people expected out of Bonino when he was here. He's been a better 3rd line C in Pittsburgh than Sutter was. Bonino is the more productive player and obviously picks up his game come playoff time and even playing with defensively questionable players like Kessel he's not a liability defensively. The contract just makes it all the more obvious that Pittsburgh smashed that deal out of the park.
I do not get how you write off Sutter given the year he had with injuries. Give it a fucking rest already. For fuck sake, some of you argue these fucking points till the paint comes off. Get a life or come up with less predictable topics. Shit. I do not even have to look to see who is the source of half this thread. Same old song every fucking time. Shut up all of you predictable pricks. Benning has more hockey sense than all of us put together but he ain't God. Everyone makes mistakes. Check out your mothers for having some of you.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by SKYO » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:33 pm

Island Nucklehead wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:I was so done with Bonino when he was here. As a second line centre our lack of depth showed. As a third line centre on an otherwise stacked team he looks like a superman.

But if all you want to compare is contracts......
Bonino's a solid distributor, far better at using his line mates than Sutter. He won't anchor a line, but he's effective when you put him with good players.

Bonino is the more productive player and obviously picks up his game come playoff time and even playing with defensively questionable players like Kessel he's not a liability defensively.

The contract just makes it all the more obvious that Pittsburgh smashed that deal out of the park.
Bonino is "effective when you put him with good players" well no fucking shit IN.

Christ, and those "good" players just happen to be NHL all-stars as I nicely pointed out above.

Pens made a great trade contractually, yup no denying that, and they'll have #13 for $2M per next season before Bonino makes $4M - $4.5M per next offseason as a UFA, where the Pens will once again have to keep trading for cheap contracts to shore up behind their HHOF's/superstars Crosby, Malkin and now Kessel.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by SKYO » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:54 pm

Sutter as a poor distributor is a valid point, and a good one, so to switch subjects,
to help Sutter and his lack of passing skills, I suggest putting Granlund on his line as a RW, as Granlund seems to be good at swarming around the net getting scoring chances, he'd help in offensively in this regard.

Especially if we get Lucic, he and Sutter can create havoc around the net/boards with Granlund being the puck handler.



This allows JB to get a true 4th line C, a traditional solid checking/faceoffs center guy.
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