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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Cornuck » Wed May 11, 2016 7:48 pm

dbr wrote:Is there even a second serious bid at this point? Seattle doesn't have a building (and just had a huge setback with the current arena proposal) and Quebec couldn't pony up the money to file an application...
And Vegas would much rather relocate a team than start from scratch. They'd love to move the Coyotes a little further north - wouldn't even need to change the name!
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Strangelove » Wed May 11, 2016 9:13 pm

dbr wrote:Is there even a second serious bid at this point? Seattle doesn't have a building (and just had a huge setback with the current arena proposal) and Quebec couldn't pony up the money to file an application...
Quebec is very serious, the only thing holding them back is the low Canadian dollar.

There were 14 other applicants... but they didn't want to become supplicants by agreeing to the NHL's terms.

Sheeesh... any chance Bettman comes down a tad on his $500M franchise fee? :look:

Of all the applicants, only Vegas and Quebec agreed to those terms.

Quebec was a sure thing until the canuck buck took a turn for the worse.

IMESHO it's just a matter of time until they're in.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Hockey Widow » Wed May 11, 2016 9:25 pm

Strangelove wrote:
dbr wrote:Is there even a second serious bid at this point? Seattle doesn't have a building (and just had a huge setback with the current arena proposal) and Quebec couldn't pony up the money to file an application...
Quebec is very serious, the only thing holding them back is the low Canadian dollar.

There were 14 other applicants... but they didn't want to become supplicants by agreeing to the NHL's terms.

Sheeesh... any chance Bettman comes down a tad on his $500M franchise fee? :look:

Of all the applicants, only Vegas and Quebec agreed to those terms.

Quebec was a sure thing until the canuck buck took a turn for the worse.

IMESHO it's just a matter of time until they're in.
Which means another expansion draft where our players are a year older and exposed. Hopefully it will be after July 2018 so we don't have to protect the twins!
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Strangelove » Wed May 11, 2016 9:34 pm

Hockey Widow wrote: Which means another expansion draft where our players are a year older and exposed. Hopefully it will be after July 2018 so we don't have to protect the twins!
I'm not saying Quebec won't find a way to make it work for 2017.

In fact, it's in Bettman's best interests to make it so.

https://notyouraveragehockeyblog.com/20 ... o-the-nhl/

BTW just a guess, but common sense tells me Sedins wouldn't have to be protected as impending UFAs in 2018.

I know, I know, common sense + NHL is often like oil + water...

But yeah, you're right, best thing for Canucks would be if both teams enter in 2017.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Hockey Widow » Thu May 12, 2016 2:21 am

The twins would do the Canucks a solid and waive their NMC as soon as the season was over :mrgreen:
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by dbr » Thu May 12, 2016 6:37 am

Strangelove wrote:
dbr wrote:Is there even a second serious bid at this point? Seattle doesn't have a building (and just had a huge setback with the current arena proposal) and Quebec couldn't pony up the money to file an application...
Quebec is very serious, the only thing holding them back is the low Canadian dollar.
:lol:

You're a funny guy, Doc.

I know it's the only thing holding them back but let's not act like the loonie is sure to return to par (and stay there) in the immediate future. Seattle could get an arena built, too..

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Puck » Thu May 12, 2016 9:17 am

I'd love to see Quebec back. Another Canadian team and a rekindled rivalry with the Habs...
Couple that with a Seattle franchise to help the Canucks' west coast travel woes and I'd be very pleased.

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Strangelove » Thu May 12, 2016 8:26 pm

dbr wrote:
Strangelove wrote:
dbr wrote:Is there even a second serious bid at this point? Seattle doesn't have a building (and just had a huge setback with the current arena proposal) and Quebec couldn't pony up the money to file an application...
Quebec is very serious, the only thing holding them back is the low Canadian dollar.
:lol:

You're a funny guy, Doc.

I know it's the only thing holding them back but let's not act like the loonie is sure to return to par (and stay there) in the immediate future. Seattle could get an arena built, too..
The low Canadian dollar is the only reason the Nords might not get in until 2018.

(the low canuck buck is merely slowing down the process)

As I said... Bettman will find a way to make this work.

Perhaps Quebec separates and joins the U S of A. :D

If so, would President Trump subsequently include Quebec within his new wall? :?
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by dbr » Fri May 13, 2016 12:46 am

Well he certainly has to admire their knack for getting things paid for by others..

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Hockey Widow » Fri May 13, 2016 6:09 pm

Sutter signs a 2 year, 3M per, extension with LA. The team has an option third year. If the team picks up the option he gets 3M. If not he still gets paid a portion on the option year. Don't know the amount. So Daryl will be back for at least two years. Crush the Flame hopefuls that the prodigal son would return.

Tough week for Flames fans. Dallas loses, Flames get a 2nd rounder. All the coaches they wanted, gone! Not to worry. Treliving will go off the board with a coach and the faithful will proclaim that was the guy they wanted all along :eh:
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Strangelove » Fri May 13, 2016 7:39 pm

dbr wrote:
Strangelove wrote:
As I said... Bettman will find a way to make this work.

Perhaps Quebec separates and joins the U S of A. :D

If so, would President Trump subsequently include Quebec within his new wall? :?
Well he certainly has to admire their knack for getting things paid for by others..
Who, Bettman or Trump? :D

Fuckin rich guys amirite? ;)
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Strangelove » Fri May 13, 2016 7:42 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:Sutter signs a 2 year, 3M per, extension with LA.
Gotta admit I'm surprised by this... didn't the team lock him out of the locker-room once or twice?

Well when they announced the extension, they also announced big changes are coming.

I believe them. :drink:
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by vic » Fri May 13, 2016 9:33 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:Sutter signs a 2 year, 3M per, extension with LA.
Gotta admit I'm surprised by this... didn't the team lock him out of the locker-room once or twice?

Well when they announced the extension, they also announced big changes are coming.

I believe them. :drink:
Has Looch signed yet? If not, was he waiting for Sutter to re-sign?

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Hockey Widow » Sat May 14, 2016 2:17 am

vic wrote:
Strangelove wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:Sutter signs a 2 year, 3M per, extension with LA.
Gotta admit I'm surprised by this... didn't the team lock him out of the locker-room once or twice?

Well when they announced the extension, they also announced big changes are coming.

I believe them. :drink:
Has Looch signed yet? If not, was he waiting for Sutter to re-sign?

No, he is waiting for an offer. Both sides have bantied around ideas but no firm offers have been exchanged. The Kings know he really wants to stay and they know he will give a home team discount. They are in no rush, well not until July 1st approaches and Lucic will wait until the last possible moment. The Kings have him where they want him.

They have bigger issues to address, like the cap and defence. I think they will try to move Brown and Gaborik. They have some RFAs to deal with. Lucic is in their plans, they gave up a lot to get him. I think they'll find a way to make it work especially if he shaves a million+ on a home team discount.

I don't expect Lucic to hit the market and I'd be fine with that. Not that I don't think he could help us, a lot, but because I'm not comfortable with many of Benning's signings. I can live with his trades, love his drafting, but am really uncomfortable with his contracts. Given his hard on for Lucic I think it would be a bad contract, perhaps worse than some other FAs.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Island Nucklehead » Sat May 14, 2016 7:27 am

Hockey Widow wrote: They have bigger issues to address, like the cap and defence. I think they will try to move Brown and Gaborik. They have some RFAs to deal with. Lucic is in their plans, they gave up a lot to get him.
Buyouts? I don't see anyone in their right mind doing the Kings a solid and taking 30-point NTC Douche Bag's $5.875 cap hit until 2022 off their hands. A DB buyout would take until 2028 and peak at a $3.68 Cap hit in 20/21 and 21/22.

Gaborik's deal ain't much better, but he doesn't have a No-Trade and he might be able to still produce some points, for under $5M cap-wise. But with 5 years left, I don't know how much longer his body will hold up (LTIR commando?).

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