Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Hockey Widow » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:22 am

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Hockey Widow wrote:He might be making it easier for Stevie to trade him. The high price Stevie wants is going down.

If I'm Benning I wait until I have Stamkos under contract then ask him what he thinks :mrgreen:
Really!?!??! What have you heard!??!?! :mrgreen:

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Hockey Widow » Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:01 pm

Jimmy Vessey spurns the Preds and advises them he is testing FA August 15th. Poile very upset as he said the Preds have been told all along Vessey would sign there and the Preds confirmed this prior to TDD. They told him if he was singing they would keep a roster spot in the top six available for him, if not they would make moves at the TDD to try and fill that role. Preds do t know why the change but now rumours of tampering are surfacing.

To that end, Dreger was speaking on the allegations when out of the blue he disclosed his dislike for the Canucks stems from tampering allegations the team made surrounding the twins/Burke/flying to Sweden. Dreger's name was included in the tampering charges to the NHL and he was called by the NHL to discuss.

Claimed he put a stop to the nonsense by threatening to go public and the NHL backed down. Such a self righteous prick.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Arachnid » Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:20 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:Jimmy Vessey spurns the Preds and advises them he is testing FA August 15th. Poile very upset as he said the Preds have been told all along Vessey would sign there and the Preds confirmed this prior to TDD. They told him if he was singing they would keep a roster spot in the top six available for him, if not they would make moves at the TDD to try and fill that role. Preds do t know why the change but now rumours of tampering are surfacing.

To that end, Dreger was speaking on the allegations when out of the blue he disclosed his dislike for the Canucks stems from tampering allegations the team made surrounding the twins/Burke/flying to Sweden. Dreger's name was included in the tampering charges to the NHL and he was called by the NHL to discuss.

Claimed he put a stop to the nonsense by threatening to go public and the NHL backed down. Such a self righteous prick.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Topper » Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:18 pm

Doesn't Jimmy's Daddy work for the Leaves?
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Hockey Widow » Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:50 pm

Topper wrote:Doesn't Jimmy's Daddy work for the Leaves?
Yes and they drafted his brother.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Hockey Widow » Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:59 pm

Kind of crazy for Vesey. Preds promised him top six, he would have gotten a $95k signing bonus, roughly $50k in remaining salary and burned one year off his 2 year ELC. Preds had him penciled in. Will be interesting to see if Preds file a tampering complaint.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by RoyalDude » Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:15 pm

It seems to be getting scarier drafting college kids than Russkies. I hope we don't see this with Boeser and Demko. I feel bad for Nashville. If Demko goes back to college next season, he could do the same thing Vesey did in the spring of 2017. Why wouldn't he? He can just sit back, field offers and pick whoever he desires. If he signs with us, he knows he's spending the year in Utica. Why not graduate, avoid Utica and become a UFA???? It's only 1 year of dough he loses.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Hockey Widow » Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:35 pm

RoyalDude wrote:It seems to be getting scarier drafting college kids than Russkies. I hope we don't see this with Boeser and Demko. I feel bad for Nashville. If Demko goes back to college next season, he could do the same thing Vesey did in the spring of 2017. Why wouldn't he? He can just sit back, field offers and pick whoever he desires. If he signs with us, he knows he's spending the year in Utica. Why not graduate, avoid Utica and become a UFA???? It's only 1 year of dough he loses.

Hopefully the PA and league can come to some agreement next CBA to close this loop hole. Not fair to Preds at all. And since he wasn't a first round pick they don't get compensation.

Demko will sign with us. He seems happy to be a Canuck and yes he knows he will spend one year in Utica but he also knows he has a great opportunity here to be our number one down the road. He also talked about developing his pro game slowly in order to be ready when he's ready.

Boeser is another issue. If he is really hot to trot to turn pro and we don't offer to sign him because we want him to develop more we could piss him off enough to go that route. I think that's why Benning, who obviously prefers he spend one more year in college, also says he will talk to Boeser when his season is done yo see where his head is at. If he is determined to turn pro Benning will sign him.

Vesey though seems to be burning bridges.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by dbr » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:21 am

Is Vesey.. what.. the sixth guy in the last decade or so to do this?

Is the best NHLer (of the guys whose original teams weren't compensated) Justin Schultz or am I missing someone?

It's a kick in the teeth, but so is having a junior player choose to re-enter the draft after 2 years.

That said, I'm sure the PA will be happy to throw the league a bone in future negotiations that doesn't affect their current membership in any way.

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Southern_Canuck » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:55 am

dbr wrote:Is Vesey.. what.. the sixth guy in the last decade or so to do this?

Is the best NHLer (of the guys whose original teams weren't compensated) Justin Schultz or am I missing someone?
Blake Wheeler is probably the highest profile player to do this... the Canucks signed Billy Sweatt (Chicago 2nd rounder in 2007) this way, but he didn't pan out.

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Hockey Widow » Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:57 pm

The PA has shown its willingness to throw entry level players under the bus during negotiations. I don't think they care about the players until they become NHL players. If the NCAA wants to they could change the rules for hockey players and make them consistent with other sports. That is, players cannot enter the draft until they declare their intentions to do so and once they do they lose their eligibility. That would solve the problem right there.

The NHL could do something to along those lines, saying as long as a player is eligible for NCAA play he cannot enter the draft.

GMs of course could protect themselves by simply refusing to draft these guys.

I don't blame the college kids. After getting your degree you have an opportunity to pick your spot. I'm sure most players would love that, total free agency for players 19 years and older!
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Tciso » Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:00 am

dbr wrote:Is Vesey.. what.. the sixth guy in the last decade or so to do this?

Is the best NHLer (of the guys whose original teams weren't compensated) Justin Schultz or am I missing someone?

It's a kick in the teeth, but so is having a junior player choose to re-enter the draft after 2 years.

That said, I'm sure the PA will be happy to throw the league a bone in future negotiations that doesn't affect their current membership in any way.
They need to ammend the CBA so that college players rights belong to the drafting team until a year after college. Or ammend it so that they can be signed in a way that doesn't destroy their college eligibility. either way, right now it is FUBAR.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Hockey Widow » Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:41 am

Tciso wrote:
dbr wrote:Is Vesey.. what.. the sixth guy in the last decade or so to do this?

Is the best NHLer (of the guys whose original teams weren't compensated) Justin Schultz or am I missing someone?

It's a kick in the teeth, but so is having a junior player choose to re-enter the draft after 2 years.

That said, I'm sure the PA will be happy to throw the league a bone in future negotiations that doesn't affect their current membership in any way.
They need to ammend the CBA so that college players rights belong to the drafting team until a year after college. Or ammend it so that they can be signed in a way that doesn't destroy their college eligibility. either way, right now it is FUBAR.

So make them ineligible for the draft until they leave college.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by micky107 » Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:21 am

Problem is: They can quit any month, day, minute they want.
Like one day after the draft?
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Hockey Widow » Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:30 am

micky107 wrote:Problem is: They can quit any month, day, minute they want.
Like one day after the draft?

That's their problem then isn't it. Isn't the idea to ensure that if drafted the team drafting them has a better chance of signing them to prevent what is happening now? The NCAA does rule in other sports that a player must declare their intention to enter the draft and once they do so they lose their NCAA eligibility which means if they are drafted they will sign.
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