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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:12 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
I can't see Jordan Schroeder centering a third line on a team with cup aspirations. Not this season anyways.

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:40 pm
by dbr
I do think (again if this team can get healthy) the only glaring hole is the third line center..

It would be great to patch that for the season and those players can be had.. Pahlsson was cheap but ultimately a failure, look how much more marketable - but still very limited - players like Paul Gaustad went for last year.

But I'd rather not dilute the return we could be getting for Roberto Luongo for the sake of a Tyler Bozak or whoever.

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:50 pm
by Strangelove
I want a 2nd line centre.

I want to play that 2nd line centre on the 3rd line when Kesler comes back.

I want your Vancouver Canucks to win a Stanley Cup THIS YEAR.

That's what I want. :drink:

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:53 pm
by Uncle dans leg
Strangelove wrote:I want a 2nd line centre.

I want to play that 2nd line centre on the 3rd line when Kesler comes back.

I want your Vancouver Canucks to win a Stanley Cup THIS YEAR.

That's what I want. :drink:
+1
3 scoring lines.

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:57 pm
by Strangelove
Uncle dans leg wrote: 3 scoring lines.
Exactly, even the Dude might agree with us on this one. :mex:

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:07 pm
by rats19
Strangelove wrote:
Uncle dans leg wrote: 3 scoring lines.
Exactly, even the Dude might agree with us on this one. :mex:
Geez leweeze...leave you guys alone for a couple hours and you figure It all out.well played gentlemen.

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:30 pm
by Potatoe1
Topper wrote:There are two 1st line centres and two fourth line centres. With one of the top injured, there is a gaping hole, The team needs someone who can play solid third line centre and sub at 2nd line if needed.
We got to game 7 of a cup final with the 4 centers currently on our roster.

I would like an upgrade but I think we disagree on the urgency of making that change. I also don't think we need to trade Luongo to address that need. Typically vet 3rd liners go for picks in the 2 - 4 range.

I would move Lu for the best young player available and then move draft picks to fill the 3rd line center role.
I can't see Jordan Schroeder centering a third line on a team with cup aspirations. Not this season anyways.
Agreed.

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:02 pm
by Uncle dans leg
Potatoe1 wrote: We got to game 7 of a cup final with the 4 centers currently on our roster.
Maybe that 3rd scoring centre gets us that 1 more win! :wink:

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:05 pm
by RoyalDude
Potatoe1 wrote:
Topper wrote:There are two 1st line centres and two fourth line centres. With one of the top injured, there is a gaping hole, The team needs someone who can play solid third line centre and sub at 2nd line if needed.
We got to game 7 of a cup final with the 4 centers currently on our roster.

I would like an upgrade but I think we disagree on the urgency of making that change. I also don't think we need to trade Luongo to address that need. Typically vet 3rd liners go for picks in the 2 - 4 range.

I would move Lu for the best young player available and then move draft picks to fill the 3rd line center role.
I can't see Jordan Schroeder centering a third line on a team with cup aspirations. Not this season anyways.
Agreed.
Game 7 against the Bruins was how long ago?

Fast forward to now, Malhotra sucks, Kesler is war torn and seemingly requires surgery every off season and by the time he is in game shape, if he does come back, by the time he gains his full confidence in his repaired shoulder it will be season 2013/14 and he Sedins will be 33.

So, basically you would like to see Gillis pull another brilliant Pahlsson like trade for a 3rd line centre, give up a 2nd to 4th round pick like he always does. Tell me, what is so wrong with Schroeder? Or are you on board with the horrid drafting and developing system that Gillis has created here. Potatoe, we need kids battling for jobs each and every new year. Teams depend on that. This is something we have not seen under the Gillis regime.

Cup aspirations? Come on Pot, did beating one of the worst teams in the league, the Avalanche, who were without their two best forwards, O'Reilly and Landeskog and solid role player - Steve Downie somehow renew some confidence in ya?

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:24 pm
by RoyalDude
Uncle dans leg wrote:
Potatoe1 wrote: We got to game 7 of a cup final with the 4 centers currently on our roster.
Maybe that 3rd scoring centre gets us that 1 more win! :wink:
No, my good friend, we need a shut down centre like Pahlsson. But if we can't find a Pahlsson, we have Lappy and Manny.

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:27 pm
by RoyalDude
Luongo turns 34 in April, somehow me thinks, especially with this opt out clause that kicks in in two years, that no team is going to give up quality assets for him in the off-season. The time to trade Luongo is now!

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:36 pm
by SKYO
Hockey Widow wrote: I think it is safe to assume that MG has not been offered a true top six that would significantly help us or he probably would have pulled the trigger. I think he has a deal he could take if he felt it would help us but I think he is reluctant because said deal would not make us a significantly better club this year.

I just know that if we are going to get prospects or pick for Luongo, both of which are good moving forward, then I want them when the season is over, not now. You don't trade a player like Luongo now for plugs.
Luongo + Higgins + Jensen for Kessel + Steckel + Reimer. <-- A true top 6 player, and a third line center. (with re-signing Kessel a priority in the offseason)

I still wouldn't mind keeping Luongo this season with another shot of 'proving himself' in the playoffs, then trade him when other teams (philly) can use some amnesty buyouts, where I think we could actually land BSchenn or Sean Couturier.
Hockey Widow wrote: Now a top six centre who is UFA with other pieces would be a good move.
Topper wrote:There are two 1st line centres and two fourth line centres. With one of the top injured, there is a gaping hole, The team needs someone who can play solid third line centre and sub at 2nd line if needed.
Luongo + Schroeder for Weiss + Shore + Clemmenson <-- Good top 6 center rental and a 3rd line center who can help now and way into the future for top 6 center duties.

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:26 am
by Todd Bersnoozi
Hmmm... Since we're in no real rush to move Lou, I'm starting to wonder if the trade deadline might be the best time to move him. Teams that think they have a chance to go all the way and think they need a goalie might offer something we can't refuse.

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:39 am
by Hockey Widow
Todd Bersnoozi wrote:Hmmm... Since we're in no real rush to move Lou, I'm starting to wonder if the trade deadline might be the best time to move him. Teams that think they have a chance to go all the way and think they need a goalie might offer something we can't refuse.

A team thinking they could go all the way would already have a starter don't you think? And if they had a team set to go could they afford at the deadline to take a piece or two off the team. I just don't think the trade deadline would see a contender grab Lou but perhaps a team not going to make the playoffs might make a pitch but if you are Luongo do you waive?

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:41 am
by Blob Mckenzie
RoyalDude wrote:
Game 7 against the Bruins was how long ago?

Fast forward to now, Malhotra sucks, Kesler is war torn and seemingly requires surgery every off season and by the time he is in game shape, if he does come back, by the time he gains his full confidence in his repaired shoulder it will be season 2013/14 and he Sedins will be 33.

So, basically you would like to see Gillis pull another brilliant Pahlsson like trade for a 3rd line centre, give up a 2nd to 4th round pick like he always does. Tell me, what is so wrong with Schroeder? Or are you on board with the horrid drafting and developing system that Gillis has created here. Potatoe, we need kids battling for jobs each and every new year. Teams depend on that. This is something we have not seen under the Gillis regime.

Cup aspirations? Come on Pot, did beating one of the worst teams in the league, the Avalanche, who were without their two best forwards, O'Reilly and Landeskog and solid role player - Steve Downie somehow renew some confidence in ya?
Yes Kesler required surgery every off season. i guess if you are only counting the last two off seasons you might be right.
You don't have any idea when he will be in game shape and gains his "full confidence" .

We are talking about this year's playoff push. The Sedins will still be 32....no idea why you keep trying to tack on an extra year to their age other than to prop up your flimsy point that the team is old. As has been pointed out to you every time you call them old or aging, many elite players have played at a high level well into their late 30's, but I guess it's easier to just ignore it . ? . :eh:

Gillis did not cough up a 2nd and a 4th for Pahlsson.....stop making shit up.

Every team has injuries but only certain teams can use them as excuses.....carry on . :lol: