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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:57 pm
by Strangelove
Reefer2 wrote: Have I missed anything or why is Tampa not in the picture?
Yes and run "Lindback" through the search engine good buddy. :thumbs:

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:14 am
by ukcanuck
Boston Canucker wrote:
SKYO wrote:I like the Keith Jones analogy on NBC sports regarding Lu/Schneider.
"It's similar to the Brett Favre - Aaron Rodgers situation, move Favre, Rodgers takes over and wins the Superbowl.
As it just takes away all the conflict and whirlwind stories the media loves to conjure up.

Ultimately it lets Schneider know, no matter what, he's the #1 go to guy.
Yes, but they also know nothing - unsurprisingly - of the relationship between the two goalies. The other guy's comment about Luongo putting the knife in was stupid, uninformed, since Lou actually verbally backed up CS and by all accounts has been supportive of him. And Milbury's blaming AV for pulling him was typical wingnut city. Gillis can't tell the coach Luongo will be on the bench but you can't put him in...stupid. The game was lost anyway, but pulling CS was quite understandable.
OMG, does that fuck Milbury still have a soapbox??? he can go fuck himself...seriously...

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:05 am
by Reefer2
Strangelove wrote:
Reefer2 wrote: Have I missed anything or why is Tampa not in the picture?
Yes and run "Lindback" through the search engine good buddy. :thumbs:
You mean the goalie that has played a total of 40 NHL games, drafted 7th round and has a 2.58 GAA and a 0.913 SV%?

You still didn't answer the question :thumbs:

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:26 am
by dbr
Reefer2 wrote:
Strangelove wrote:
Reefer2 wrote: Have I missed anything or why is Tampa not in the picture?
Yes and run "Lindback" through the search engine good buddy. :thumbs:
You mean the goalie that has played a total of 40 NHL games, drafted 7th round and has a 2.58 GAA and a 0.913 SV%?

You still didn't answer the question :thumbs:
Stevie Y sees him differently than you, me, and pretty much everyone else I guess.

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:33 am
by RoyalDude
A bit out of touch with Tampa and Brett Connolly's progress but I don't see him the Lightnings line-up, did they send him back to the AHL?

I was hipped to the idea that if we do a trade with Tampa that Connolly be part of the package coming this way but not so sure about that now.

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:49 am
by dbr
So I don't know if this is taken out of context but TSN.ca is running a story in which they quote Gillis saying there is a potential deal in place, pending a mystery trade partner making a move with another one of their players.

This seems really out of character to me, I don't know if Gillis has just decided to throw this out in public for the hell of it or if the story is blowing some off-hand remark way out of proportion but something doesn't sit right.

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:53 am
by Diehard1
dbr wrote:So I don't know if this is taken out of context but TSN.ca is running a story in which they quote Gillis saying there is a potential deal in place, pending a mystery trade partner making a move with another one of their players.

This seems really out of character to me, I don't know if Gillis has just decided to throw this out in public for the hell of it or if the story is blowing some off-hand remark way out of proportion but something doesn't sit right.
This is what we've been talking about - I'd love to read the whole transcript but it sounds like exactly what TSN is saying, there's a deal on the table that Gillis likes but the other team has to do something first. Whether this is a trade, clearing cap space or what I don't know.

My guess is it's Philly, they don't have the cap room to take Lu and don't have any bad contracts to dump in return aside from Bryzgalov (not happening) and Pronger (they're stuck with that too). That's simply a guess though.

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:57 am
by dbr
Right, of course.

Anyway I reiterate my .. befuddledness. I can't think of any other occasion on which Mike Gillis has disclosed anything even close to specific details about trade negotiations in public.

(Of course the Luongo situation is obviously unprecedented, but still.)

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:23 am
by Reefer2
dbr wrote:Right, of course.

Anyway I reiterate my .. befuddledness. I can't think of any other occasion on which Mike Gillis has disclosed anything even close to specific details about trade negotiations in public.

(Of course the Luongo situation is obviously unprecedented, but still.)
So to me Mike is either

a) a sadistic bastard who is playing the media/fans like TO did last week
b) really does have a deal and is sending a message to other teams they have a few days to get the final offer in or he is gone

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:43 am
by dbr
Reefer2 wrote:b) really does have a deal and is sending a message to other teams they have a few days to get the final offer in or he is gone
I've always been skeptical of this. What does floating a juicy quote to a reporter accomplish that calling up a GM and saying "look I've got an offer that should pan out in the next couple of weeks" wouldn't?

Unless he thinks there's a team or two out there where the GM does not have complete control of the bus and someone else is going to hear the story and apply some internal pressure..

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:51 am
by wafflecombine
hard to say what the game is. If there is a deal in principle I really doubt its with Toronto cause they just don't have the pieces we need (IMO). But realistically I'm not sure who this dance partner might be. Guess we will find out in due time.

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:01 am
by Uncle dans leg
Florida Panthers Injury Report
Kris Versteeg 2013-01-21 on injured reserve hip surgery/groin
Sean Bergenheim 2013-01-22 undisclosed undisclosed
Marcel Goc 2013-01-22 undisclosed undisclosed
Erik Gudbranson 2013-01-22 undisclosed undisclosed


Florida wanting to see how the injuries look in a week?

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:09 am
by herb
I agree with Dave - not sure why Gillis would say anything. I believe that interview was conducted with Cam Cole and done last week before the season started, so who knows really.

To UDL's point:
Versteeg has a groin strain, and could be a guy that could help out the Canucks. Gudbranson is still recovering from shoulder surgery, but I doubt he'd be coming back in a Luongo trade. The injuries to Goc and Bergenheim are mysteries, but we don't need any more 3rd liners anyway.

One thing that could, I suppose, hold up a potential trade with Florida is that Theodore nas a NTC. If the Canucks didn't want him, or he didn't want to come here, than that could hold up things if Florida is looking to move him and keep Clemmensen.

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:20 am
by dbr
I wonder if Gillis wasn't speaking in a much broader sense (in terms of timeframe - ie. something along the lines of 'we have a potential deal with a team that needs to make a compliance buy out to clear cap space,' in other words teams are talking to MG about acquiring Luongo this summer) than people are now inferring..

Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:30 am
by Eddy Punch Clock
dbr wrote:I wonder if Gillis wasn't speaking in a much broader sense (in terms of timeframe - ie. something along the lines of 'we have a potential deal with a team that needs to make a compliance buy out to clear cap space,' in other words teams are talking to MG about acquiring Luongo this summer) than people are now inferring..
As in Philly buying out Bryzgalov.

But apparently Philly does have the cap room for both so I'm not sure if thats the case.