So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Post by Aaronp18 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:01 am

Yeah maybe they're just hoping someone takes Connolly. If they buy him out right now there's no cap savings.

So putting him on waivers and buying him out doesn't make cap room for Luongo, if I'm understanding this accelerated buyout thingy right.

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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Post by Tciso » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:43 am

Vader wrote:Tim Connolly on waivers...perhaps for the purpose of a buy out

Matthew Lomabrdi....gone

Clearing room for Luongo?
I believe they are on the hook for all but $900k of his salary cap. Either Nonis is
1) clearing house of Burke babies and strays
2) sending a clear message to the league that they can finish in 29th, ahead of Edmonton, without these Connolly or Lombardi
3) making room for Luongo
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Post by The Brown Wizard » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:47 am

Tciso wrote:
Vader wrote:Tim Connolly on waivers...perhaps for the purpose of a buy out

Matthew Lomabrdi....gone

Clearing room for Luongo?
I believe they are on the hook for all but $900k of his salary cap. Either Nonis is
1) clearing house of Burke babies and strays
2) sending a clear message to the league that they can finish in 29th, ahead of Edmonton, without these Connolly or Lombardi
3) making room for Luongo
I think Nonis is looking over that roster and thinking why bother bringing in a franchise goalie for 5 years when it'll take that long to build a contender. I suspect he's going to blow off the season and try for Jones/Drouin/McKinnon.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Post by mpp » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:53 am

Uncle dans leg wrote: I think Nonis is looking over that roster and thinking why bother bringing in a franchise goalie for 5 years when it'll take that long to build a contender. I suspect he's going to blow off the season and try for Jones/Drouin/McKinnon.
I know I would flush the turds if I was GM.
You're making him Brutus to Burke's Caesar... not sure if it's relevant. This Toronto squad has Nonis' fingerprints all over, the same way ours has Gillman's.

Not that it helps in solving the why-waive-Connolly puzzle.

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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Post by Jovocop » Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:20 pm

Uncle dans leg wrote:I think Nonis is looking over that roster and thinking why bother bringing in a franchise goalie for 5 years when it'll take that long to build a contender. I suspect he's going to blow off the season and try for Jones/Drouin/McKinnon.
I know I would flush the turds if I was GM.
If that is what Nonis is thinking, he should start submitting his EI application. The upper management, the fans, and the media obviously have no patience for a rebuild.

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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Post by dbr » Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:25 pm

mpp wrote:
Uncle dans leg wrote: I think Nonis is looking over that roster and thinking why bother bringing in a franchise goalie for 5 years when it'll take that long to build a contender. I suspect he's going to blow off the season and try for Jones/Drouin/McKinnon.
I know I would flush the turds if I was GM.
You're making him Brutus to Burke's Caesar... not sure if it's relevant. This Toronto squad has Nonis' fingerprints all over, the same way ours has Gillman's.

Not that it helps in solving the why-waive-Connolly puzzle.
Keep in mind when we cut Burkie loose Nonis gave the existing group (who were a pretty successful team at the time) one season before he started building his team in pretty much the exact opposide order that BB had attempted.

Even if Nonis has been more or less on board with most of the moves Burke made, he is his own GM and a new GM typically has a mandate to clean house if necessary.. Burke waiving the guy he signed eighteen months ago looks horrible but a new GM after that signing (and others) got the previous one fired can do whatever he wants.

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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Post by SKYO » Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:37 pm

Don't think TML are tanking, they still have a somewhat decent forward group after trading Lombardi, letting Aucoin go, and placing Connolly on waivers.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Post by ODB » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:58 pm

I can't see why Nonis would be intentionally tanking the season. The draft lottery rules have changed that any none playoff can win the lottery. Rumor has it teams have complained about their counterparts tanking on purpose. No one could possibly argue Edmonton has been trying to ice a playoff caliber team over the last few years. The odds of winning are still higher the lower you finish but the no team can move up more than 4 spots rule is no more. Tanking doesn’t assure you anything.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Post by Strangelove » Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:09 pm

SKYO wrote: Don't think TML are tanking, they still have a somewhat decent forward group after trading Lombardi, letting Aucoin go, and placing Connolly on waivers.
Lupul-Grabovski-Kessel
JVR-Bozak-MacArthur
Kulemin-McClement-Frattin/Kadri
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Hmmm should be middle of the pack in goals-for again.

And in the basement in goals-against again.

Looking over the entire roster it's pretty tough to figure a way to fix the mess that is the TO Leaves

.... especially for a man like NO-NUTS.

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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Post by Tciso » Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:24 pm

Strangelove wrote: Hmmm should be middle of the pack in goals-for again.
And in the basement in goals-against again.
Looking over the entire roster it's pretty tough to figure a way to fix the mess that is the TO Leaves
.... especially for a man like NO-NUTS.

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Luongo will at least let them see the promised land. Right now, they are in year 45 of wandering the desert. (no cup is one thing. not even making the SC finals is abyssmal)

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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Post by Strangelove » Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:33 pm

I dunno, if you were Lou would you be willing to waive your NTC to become a part of that mess?

Even with Lou they'd probably miss the playoffs.

Hmmm... Gardiner + a 1st?? :drink:
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Post by Madcombinepilot » Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:39 pm

Nonis is getting rid of all the deadwieght who wont fit in Coach Carlyle's style.

Connelly is made out of brittle rice cake.

Carlyle likes bangers.

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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Post by Strangelove » Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:42 pm

Madcombinepilot wrote:Nonis is getting rid of all the deadwieght who wont fit in Coach Carlyle's style.

Connelly is made out of brittle rice cake.

Carlyle likes bangers.

Rice cake breaks when banging.
Carlyle also likes players who can play a little defense.

Good luck with THAT lot!! :lol:

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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Post by Chef Boi RD » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:21 pm

Well, looks like there is a new sheriff in town in Ontario. Rumor has it that Blobby Mac's good buddy Cheeseburger Boi Nonis ain't trading no draft picks or young players and prospects for short term fix, veterens. People assumed that ole Nonis would get walked over by old Suitcase Eyes Gillis in a Luongo deal but in fact the changing of GM's in T.O. will in fact work against us in landing a good return, not that there was much there to begin with.

Nonis is doing the right thing, what's the point in bringing in a veteren Luongo backstopping for a team that is duh, pretty much shite to begin with. It will take more than just a Luongo to right that sad sack of a team that Burke built. It's rebuild time in T.O. and they've got the right man for it.

So duh, unless Gillis accepts that shite rental player, up and coming UFA Bozak and maybe a 2nd round pick we ain't gettin' fuck all from Toronto. I can dig where Gillis is coming from, why waste the great asset in Luongo on a Bozak when you can find a Bozak for free in the open market. Hey Mike Gillis, I wouldn't want to be ya.
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Re: So, who would you like in a return for Luongo

Post by Chef Boi RD » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:27 pm

Uncle dans leg wrote: I think Nonis is looking over that roster and thinking why bother bringing in a franchise goalie for 5 years when it'll take that long to build a contender. I suspect he's going to blow off the season and try for Jones/Drouin/McKinnon.
I know I would flush the turds if I was GM.
Is there any questioning that train of thought if you are Nonis? It's the right thing to do, and Nonis is gonna take that route. There was too much pressure on Burke to get the Leaves into the playoffs to justify his 4 years there, he was the guy to pull a Luongo deal with if there ever was gonna be one with Toronto, not Nonis. Nonis has a clean slate and he ain't about to start selling the future which Burke was about to and that is IMO why he was let go. Toronto needs to stop selling their futures and build a team through drafting and developing. Ya don't think Nonis knows this?
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