A coal miners daughter.Strangelove wrote:UKcanuck, are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party of Britain?
Rather flinty.
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A coal miners daughter.Strangelove wrote:UKcanuck, are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party of Britain?
okay point taken, I'm not that heart broken to retract my besmirch of Linden anyway, like I said he's one of my all time CanucksStrangelove wrote:Not true. Linden served as NHLPA President for a full year after the agreement was signed (July 2005). When his term came up Linden announced (July 2006) that he had chosen not not run again. Linden served as President of the NHLPA for 8 years in total.ukcanuck wrote: Linden could have been a hero as Pot says or he could have been Judas...one thing is pretty clear he was run out of the PA leadership at the time...doesnt sound like a hero really....
Meanwhile NHLPA Executive Director and General Counsel... and Chelios pal... Bob Goodenow was forced to resign 5 days after the agreement.
lol I refuse to answer that on the grounds that I might resemble that!Strangelove wrote: UKcanuck, are you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party of Britain?
Lol a milf only Topper could love...well Topper and Denis anywayTopper wrote:A coal miners daughter.Strangelove wrote:UKcanuck, are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party of Britain?
Rather flinty.
Dirty shit-eating commies.Topper wrote:A coal miners daughter.Strangelove wrote: UKcanuck, are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party of Britain?
Rather flinty.
lol that would be a no then!!Strangelove wrote:Dirty shit-eating commies.Topper wrote:A coal miners daughter.Strangelove wrote: UKcanuck, are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party of Britain?
Rather flinty.
Well truth be told the commies are much MUCH worse than that.ukcanuck wrote: everything we were told about the communists is true...
Fact of the matter is Communism, as the Soviets practiced it, failed economically. Unless the CIA was lying to its own people (okay, that may be plausible), recently declassified reports on the Soviet Union essentially said that as much as the Soviets knew their system wasn't working (hell, they started IMPORTING grain as far back as the 70s) and tried to adapt, economically the clock was ticking on them. The only places communism works is in places where it looks drastically different from what Marx and Lenin espoused way back when. Hell, China looks more like Nazi germany economically in many ways (and one may argue many others as well).ukcanuck wrote: lol that would be a no then!!
everything we were told about the communists is true...
I would have thought the guy who thinks (finger on nose) the moon landings are farce would consider the same people would lie about the ruskies as well?
Lancer wrote:Fact of the matter is Communism, as the Soviets practiced it, failed economically. Unless the CIA was lying to its own people (okay, that may be plausible), recently declassified reports on the Soviet Union essentially said that as much as the Soviets knew their system wasn't working (hell, they started IMPORTING grain as far back as the 70s) and tried to adapt, economically the clock was ticking on them. The only places communism works is in places where it looks drastically different from what Marx and Lenin espoused way back when. Hell, China looks more like Nazi germany economically in many ways (and one may argue many others as well).ukcanuck wrote: lol that would be a no then!!
everything we were told about the communists is true...
I would have thought the guy who thinks (finger on nose) the moon landings are farce would consider the same people would lie about the ruskies as well?
Capitalism, like democracy, isn't perfect but it's better than the alternatives you see around the world.
My $0.02.
I agree that no communist country has ever succeeded for long, but then I don't think any country you could name has been actually communist in the way Karl Marx would have envisioned it anyway. Some have paid lip service to the idea of it but the problem with a system that comes into power through revolution is it's always at the mercy of counter-revolution...Animal FarmFred wrote:Which communist country has suceeded ? You certainly can't include China, Vietnam or Cuba. Both China and Russia were reigns of terror to protect the well being of the mother state, "all for one and one for all." When in fact it ended with knocks on the door at midnight and more a kind of "you pretend to work and we'll pretend to pay you" I was in Russia in the 60's and China while Mao was leader, pre the Red Revolution. The old days in Poland where the official exchange szloties to the pound was 64 but you could get 350 on the street ( a true indicator of the fear people lived under) It wasn't good but some thing you'll never ever forget. I recall Hungary and the Czechoslovakia uprising. I recall a Polish represntitive of the Government being recalled to Poland after living in Canada for 16 years. He had a 15 year old son who he gave up and left in Vcr rather than take him back to Warsaw to a life of eating rabbit meat and growing your own vegitables because there was no food.
Communisim.Socilaism was a failed experiment
Strange i was just discssing Animal Farm at a Dinner last night. Remember first and fore most it was a novel I also recall "All pigs are equal except some are more equal than others "ukcanuck wrote:I agree that no communist country has ever succeeded for long, but then I don't think any country you could name has been actually communist in the way Karl Marx would have envisioned it anyway. Some have paid lip service to the idea of it but the problem with a system that comes into power through revolution is it's always at the mercy of counter-revolution...Animal Farm
interestingly enough I was reminded of Animal Farm and the way the pigs take over the farm and pervert the idea that all animals are equal by adding "except some are more equal than others" bit, when I read that the NHL is a Ranch and the players are the cattle quote by Detroit's Jimmy "the pig" Devellano...Fred wrote:Strange i was just discssing Animal Farm at a Dinner last night. Remember first and fore most it was a novel I also recall "All pigs are equal except some are more equal than others "ukcanuck wrote:I agree that no communist country has ever succeeded for long, but then I don't think any country you could name has been actually communist in the way Karl Marx would have envisioned it anyway. Some have paid lip service to the idea of it but the problem with a system that comes into power through revolution is it's always at the mercy of counter-revolution...Animal Farm
Marx had a dream or fantasy there was no relationship with reality. It's like Union leaders creaming off Directors bonuses from Union Pension funds. Every one has dreams just like Marx but most dreams are about themselves or their families. Marx dreams f***ked and entire country and millions of people be they dead or alive
Best we all stick to rality
Fred wrote:Strange i was just discssing Animal Farm at a Dinner last night. Remember first and fore most it was a novel I also recall "All pigs are equal except some are more equal than others "ukcanuck wrote:I agree that no communist country has ever succeeded for long, but then I don't think any country you could name has been actually communist in the way Karl Marx would have envisioned it anyway. Some have paid lip service to the idea of it but the problem with a system that comes into power through revolution is it's always at the mercy of counter-revolution...Animal Farm
Marx had a dream or fantasy there was no relationship with reality. It's like Union leaders creaming off Directors bonuses from Union Pension funds. Every one has dreams just like Marx but most dreams are about themselves or their families. Marx dreams f***ked and entire country and millions of people be they dead or alive
Best we all stick to rality
Devalano's second career choice was not philosophy. As a rule we give far to much weight to some of these comments. At that same dinner I attended last night Lucics name came up and I said if he wasn't playing hockey chnace are he'd be involved with another business venture that Commercial Drive is famous for ....or doing time. These people are not paragons of virtue or intelect. The fact that they can find their way home of an evening is all they need to know, and that's maybe streching itukcanuck wrote:interestingly enough I was reminded of Animal Farm and the way the pigs take over the farm and pervert the idea that all animals are equal by adding "except some are more equal than others" bit, when I read that the NHL is a Ranch and the players are the cattle quote by Detroit's Jimmy "the pig" Devellano...Fred wrote:Strange i was just discssing Animal Farm at a Dinner last night. Remember first and fore most it was a novel I also recall "All pigs are equal except some are more equal than others "ukcanuck wrote:I agree that no communist country has ever succeeded for long, but then I don't think any country you could name has been actually communist in the way Karl Marx would have envisioned it anyway. Some have paid lip service to the idea of it but the problem with a system that comes into power through revolution is it's always at the mercy of counter-revolution...Animal Farm
Marx had a dream or fantasy there was no relationship with reality. It's like Union leaders creaming off Directors bonuses from Union Pension funds. Every one has dreams just like Marx but most dreams are about themselves or their families. Marx dreams f***ked and entire country and millions of people be they dead or alive
Best we all stick to rality
all joking aside what a nasty and disrespectful comment by a bootlick.