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Re: There will be a strike

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:11 pm
by Potatoe1
As predicted....

NHLPA flips Gary the bird.

They give 3 proposals all based around the "unlinked" system they proposed in their first offer. They know full well that the owners will never give up linkage so the reality is that they are not prepared to negotiate any type of give backs from the previous cba.

Right now it is virtually a given that a significant portion of the season will be missed.

Re: There will be a strike

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:15 pm
by Topper
rats19 wrote:
Topper wrote:Deep Purple further cheapens the RRHOF.
shirley you jest...
It is a toss up whether you need more hockey skill to get your number retired by the Canucks or music talent/influence to get into the RRRHOF.

Re: There will be a strike

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:18 pm
by donlever
rats19 wrote:
Topper wrote:Deep Purple further cheapens the RRHOF.
shirley you jest...

Meh.

Abba

Madonna

The "Pips"

John Mellencamp

Re: There will be a strike

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:20 pm
by Topper
Potatoe1 wrote:As predicted....

NHLPA flips Gary the bird.

They give 3 proposals all based around the "unlinked" system they proposed in their first offer. They know full well that the owners will never give up linkage so the reality is that they are not prepared to negotiate any type of give backs from the previous cba.

Right now it is virtually a given that a significant portion of the season will be missed.
I just did a HNIC Dave Hodge.
Down Goes Brown ‏@DownGoesBrown

Still can't figure out which Gary Bettman orifice the NHLPA's fourth offer involves.

Re: There will be a strike

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:20 pm
by rats19
Topper wrote:
rats19 wrote:
Topper wrote:Deep Purple further cheapens the RRHOF.
shirley you jest...
It is a toss up whether you need more hockey skill to get your number retired by the Canucks or music talent/influence to get into the RRRHOF.
sorry i did an edit....go back pick up edit....

Re: There will be a strike

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:24 pm
by Topper
rats19 wrote:sorry i did an edit....go back pick up edit....
#35 on your list? Come on Rats, we know how well you do with lists.

Re: There will be a strike

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:26 pm
by rats19
Topper wrote:
rats19 wrote:sorry i did an edit....go back pick up edit....
#35 on your list? Come on Rats, we know how well you do with lists.
no not my list. I lisp lists

excerpt:Take a band like Deep Purple. Thirty-eight years since they first appeared, they are still recording and touring, although the face of the band has changed numerous times. They remain one of the greatest pioneering hard rock bands of all time. Do the individuals voting in this not recognize Ritchie Blackmore as one the greatest guitar players in history, likewise Ian Gillan vocally? Is it because they were labeled heavy metal? Does �In Rock� still sound too heavy 36 years later? If anyone wants to argue that hall members Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers have added more significance to music than Deep Purple, then that person is a sick, pathetic human being.

Re: There will be a strike

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:27 pm
by Potatoe1
I bet it takes about 4 to 5 hours for the media and general public to switch back to the owners side.

If the Players simply re-hashed their previous offer it will be seen as a refusal to negotiate and more stone walling.

Not that I think public opinion is all that relevant.

Re: There will be a strike

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:29 pm
by rats19
Potatoe1 wrote:I bet it takes about 4 to 5 hours for the media and general public to switch back to the owners side.

If the Players simply re-hashed their previous offer it will be seen as a refusal to negotiate and more stone walling.

Not that I think public opinion is all that relevant.
pot and his fuckin hockey...jesus H man we are talking RRHOF here... :wink:

Re: There will be a strike

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:34 pm
by dbr
Potatoe1 wrote:I bet it takes about 4 to 5 hours for the media and general public to switch back to the owners side.

If the Players simply re-hashed their previous offer it will be seen as a refusal to negotiate and more stone walling.

Not that I think public opinion is all that relevant.
Yep. The "PR battle" is totally overblown (and it seems like Fehr doesn't care at all to take part in it), but even despite their focus group leak the NHL have done well to back the PA into a corner in that regard this week.

That being said if you step back from that, so far the NHL have come more than halfway back from their initial proposal to the PA while the PA's "best" offer still doesn't even involve a hard cap or direct linkage.

Re: There will be a strike

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:38 pm
by donlever
rats19 wrote:
Potatoe1 wrote:I bet it takes about 4 to 5 hours for the media and general public to switch back to the owners side.

If the Players simply re-hashed their previous offer it will be seen as a refusal to negotiate and more stone walling.

Not that I think public opinion is all that relevant.
pot and his fuckin hockey...jesus H man we are talking RRHOF here... :wink:
Indeed.

Something that actually matters.


We all loathe Gary Bettman,
Leadership very borderli-ine.
Pissing off the NHL rank and file,
It sure ain't hockeytime.
Donald Fe-ehr and the players,
Were no better all around,
Bunch of assholes and their big guns,
Burn the league to the ground.
Smoke down at Rogers, Nucks Cup chances die.
Smoke down at Rogers...

Re: There will be a strike

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:46 pm
by rats19
donlever wrote:
rats19 wrote:
Potatoe1 wrote:I bet it takes about 4 to 5 hours for the media and general public to switch back to the owners side.

If the Players simply re-hashed their previous offer it will be seen as a refusal to negotiate and more stone walling.

Not that I think public opinion is all that relevant.
pot and his fuckin hockey...jesus H man we are talking RRHOF here... :wink:
Indeed.

Something that actually matters.


We all loathe Gary Bettman,
Leadership very borderli-ine.
Pissing off the NHL rank and file,
It sure ain't hockeytime.
Donald Fe-ehr and the players,
Were no better all around,
Bunch of assholes and their big guns,
Burn the league to the ground.
Smoke down at Rogers, Nucks Cup chances die.
Smoke down at Rogers...
nice donny... abit of a melding if you will..

Re: There will be a strike

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:47 pm
by Potatoe1
Michael Grange ‏@michaelgrange
Only detail Bettman provided was that the player's proposal included an increased share of HRR in year 1 ...



In other words - Message Delivered

F@#K You Gary ! Go back to New York.

Re: There will be a strike

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:48 pm
by ukcanuck
Potatoe1 wrote:I bet it takes about 4 to 5 hours for the media and general public to switch back to the owners side.

If the Players simply re-hashed their previous offer it will be seen as a refusal to negotiate and more stone walling.

Not that I think public opinion is all that relevant.
I'm sure that's bettman's wish is for everyone to believe he did his best before losing the season as if he and his position are victims on all this. Hopefully more will think like I do and that he and Jacobs and his ilk are just full of shit.

The equitable solution is out there, with no need for the pressure tactics or gun boat diplomacy.

Re: There will be a strike

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:55 pm
by Topper
Potatoe1 wrote:Michael Grange ‏@michaelgrange
Only detail Bettman provided was that the player's proposal included an increased share of HRR in year 1 ...



In other words - Message Delivered

F@#K You Gary ! Go back to New York.
The players just became little lighter in the wallets with this move. Their choice.