There will be a strike

[dbr]

nobody has an absolute right

Correct. Who all would you include within that group.

Where are you going with this Fred, is this supposed to arrive at "nobody has any rights so the players should just shut up and accept whatever the owners want to pay them"?

[tantalum]

Perhaps the reason the league is waiting for the PA to (once again) accept full inkage and some basic share of the HRR (negotiable) is because that is the box everything goes into. Without the box it doesn't much matter what the other things are in the leagues view. With the box they are far more likely to move from their position on other issues.

[ukcanuck]

Perhaps the reason the league is waiting for the PA to (once again) accept full inkage and some basic share of the HRR (negotiable) is because that is the box everything goes into. Without the box it doesn't much matter what the other things are in the leagues view. With the box they are far more likely to move from their position on other issues.

It might be that percent of HRR is the tangible in this, the cash. the other stuff are intangibles they may work out in favour of the team or the player depending but as they say "A bird in hand and all that.

Besides if the the players accept the owners percentage desires the other stuff that goes in the box will never be in the player's favour. The league is not going to shorten the time it takes to gain free agency, they aren't going to allow for longer contracts so that teams can mitigate the salary cap.
What would you do if you were Fehr?

[the Dogsalmon]

its just one big HR problem...

[Strangelove]

You must be loving Mr. Harper's mature approach to international relations lately. When we disagree with countries the best thing to do is stop talking. Right ol' bean?

Harper for Statesmen of the Year!

Why is it whenever you comment on global politics all I hear is "tick tick tick"?

The owners own the league, at the end of the day they can do whatever they want. Doesn't make them rational, reasonable or, and most importantly, honourable.

Nor does it make them irrational, unreasonable, nor dishonourable.

The things they do usually do tend to make em richer though.

[the Dogsalmon]

You must be loving Mr. Harper's mature approach to international relations lately. When we disagree with countries the best thing to do is stop talking. Right ol' bean?

Harper for Statesmen of the Year!

Why is it whenever you comment on global politics all I hear is "tick tick tick"?

The owners own the league, at the end of the day they can do whatever they want. Doesn't make them rational, reasonable or, and most importantly, honourable.

Nor does it make them irrational, unreasonable, nor dishonourable.

The things they do usually do tend to make em richer though.

you forgot the BOOM part...

[Strangelove]

... thought that might be premature.

But then I suppose premature in this case would be a GOOD thing.

[Fred]

Where are you going with this Fred, is this supposed to arrive at "nobody has any rights so the players should just shut up and accept whatever the owners want to pay them"?

When you start stating that nobody has the right, you can't be selective. You say nobody and then start adding addendums

[Topper]

... thought that might be premature.

But then I suppose premature in this case would be a GOOD thing.

Nailed it.

[Strangelove]

... without using so much as even a figurative hammer.

[Mondi]

This is for you SL and Topper, or as one might suggest mini-Romney and mini-Ryan:

http://www.ipolitics.ca/2012/09/08/1984 ... on-speech/

As for the owners, the dishonourable part is explained here:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/h ... le4548860/

But you already knew all that. You're like a mini version of Glen Beck. Let the sick die, right ol' chap?

With that being said, with each player that reports to an AHL or European team...well the pendulum swings the other way.

[ukcanuck]

... without using so much as even a figurative hammer.

don't always need a hammer...

[Strangelove]

... now you're speaking literally

AND from experience??

[ukcanuck]

This is for you SL and Topper, or as one might suggest mini-Romney and mini-Ryan:

http://www.ipolitics.ca/2012/09/08/1984 ... on-speech/

As for the owners, the dishonourable part is explained here:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/h ... le4548860/

But you already knew all that. You're like a mini version of Glen Beck. Let the sick die, right ol' chap?

With that being said, with each player that reports to an AHL or European team...well the pendulum swings the other way.

I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one around here who didn't see anyone in Clint's chair...

[ukcanuck]

... now you're speaking literally

AND from experience??

lol I was being descriptive

As for experience, if it wasnt for pop culture I would have no idea what y'all are talking about