Shea Weber Accepts Offer Sheet from Phi (14 Years, 100 Mill)

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Re: Shea Weber Accepts Offer Sheet from Phi (14 Years, 100 M

Postby ODB » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:51 am

Jovocop wrote:Holmgren is an idiot. The Preds, barring a major financial problem, will most likely match the offer sheet. Holmgren is basically helping Poile to do his job.


I don't think the offer helped Poile at all. It definitely helped Weber.

Poile had the option to drag the process out. Will we trade him will we not?

The uncertainty around the expiring CBA, and what might come, put Weber in a very bad spot. The NHL opened with five year max contracts and five equal cap hits. They also said they wanted to raise the UFA age. Both crushing if your last name is Weber! Poile uses that and the calendar to get Weber to sign long term before the CBA expires. He holds the cards. The only Play Weber had was to sign an offer sheet. He's happy in Nashville, that is a fact. If he wasn’t he wouldn’t have risked signing a life time contract that Poile can match. All Weber wanted was a good term and a Crosby type contract. He got it and Poile lost his CBA leverage.

Good for Weber, he's a beast.
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Re: Shea Weber Accepts Offer Sheet from Phi (14 Years, 100 M

Postby rats19 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:55 am

They don't want webber anywhere but Nashville..simple :lol:
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Re: Shea Weber Accepts Offer Sheet from Phi (14 Years, 100 M

Postby Madcombinepilot » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:57 am

is 26 million in the first year legal in the current cba?

currently (if i remember correctly) you cant pay a single player more than 20(?)% of the cap in a single year... so if the cap is 70 million, can you pay weber more than 14 million in the first year?

(I did no reaserch on this, i am asking if anyone knows)
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Re: Shea Weber Accepts Offer Sheet from Phi (14 Years, 100 M

Postby Potatoe1 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:59 am

rats19 wrote:They don't want webber anywhere but Nashville..simple :lol:


I kind of agree.

The Preds aren't going to pose any type of threat next year so I would still prefer him there vs. heading east and turning the Flyers into a real contender.
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Re: Shea Weber Accepts Offer Sheet from Phi (14 Years, 100 M

Postby ODB » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:00 am

rats19 wrote:They don't want webber anywhere but Nashville..simple :lol:

That's probably it. They know the chances Nashville lets Weber go are almost zero. But they did front load with signing bonuses so they must be thinking though a long shot, stealing Weber for 4 late round picks would be sweet tits.
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Re: Shea Weber Accepts Offer Sheet from Phi (14 Years, 100 M

Postby ODB » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:01 am

Madcombinepilot wrote:is 26 million in the first year legal in the current cba?


I read 14 a year over the first 4 or 5 years. I don't think anyone knows the official numbers but I don't think 26 is right.
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Re: Shea Weber Accepts Offer Sheet from Phi (14 Years, 100 M

Postby clem » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:05 am

Philadelphia would be eligible to trade Weber at any time, but Nashville would have to wait a year.


Weber's concern over uncertainty (& the new CBA) seems to have outweighed negotiating better contract terms (NTC, NMC) as a UFA.

Holmgren gets some good PR, even if he doesn't get Weber. Time for Nashville ownership to show how serious they are.

http://blogs.theprovince.com/2012/07/19/the-shea-weber-offer-sheet/
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Re: Shea Weber Accepts Offer Sheet from Phi (14 Years, 100 M

Postby Madcombinepilot » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:13 am

ODB wrote:
Madcombinepilot wrote:is 26 million in the first year legal in the current cba?


I read 14 a year over the first 4 or 5 years. I don't think anyone knows the official numbers but I don't think 26 is right.


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Re: Shea Weber Accepts Offer Sheet from Phi (14 Years, 100 M

Postby ODB » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:16 am

Nashville, Tenn. (July 19, 2012) – Nashville Predators President of Hockey Operations/General Manager David Poile issued the following statement this morning:

"We are in receipt of the offer sheet signed between the Philadelphia Flyers and Shea Weber. Under the rules pertaining to an offer sheet, the Predators have one week to decide whether to match or accept the compensation. We have stated previously that, should a team enter into an offer sheet with Shea, our intention would be to match and retain Shea. Our ownership has provided us with the necessary resources to build a Stanley Cup-winning team. Due to the complexity of the offer sheet, we will take the appropriate time to review and evaluate it and all of its ramifications in order to make the best decision for the Predators in both the short and long-term.

“We do not anticipate any further comments on this situation until we make our decision within the next seven days.”


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Re: Shea Weber Accepts Offer Sheet from Phi (14 Years, 100 M

Postby Jovocop » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:18 am

ODB wrote:
Jovocop wrote:Holmgren is an idiot. The Preds, barring a major financial problem, will most likely match the offer sheet. Holmgren is basically helping Poile to do his job.


I don't think the offer helped Poile at all. It definitely helped Weber.

Poile had the option to drag the process out. Will we trade him will we not?

The uncertainty around the expiring CBA, and what might come, put Weber in a very bad spot. The NHL opened with five year max contracts and five equal cap hits. They also said they wanted to raise the UFA age. Both crushing if your last name is Weber! Poile uses that and the calendar to get Weber to sign long term before the CBA expires. He holds the cards. The only Play Weber had was to sign an offer sheet. He's happy in Nashville, that is a fact. If he wasn’t he wouldn’t have risked signing a life time contract that Poile can match. All Weber wanted was a good term and a Crosby type contract. He got it and Poile lost his CBA leverage.

Good for Weber, he's a beast.


Yes, money-wise might not be good for the Preds; however,Poile will not lose Weber to UFA for sure. Letting Hamhuis walked for a low draft pick 2 seasons ago and losing Suter to Minny this season for nothing, Poile cannot afford to lose Weber next season. At the end of the day, the money is coming from the owner's pocket, not Poile.
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Re: Shea Weber Accepts Offer Sheet from Phi (14 Years, 100 M

Postby SKYO » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:28 am

Yeah they'll match, and depending on the NTC, they should trade him to the Canucks before his next signing bonus kicks in next offseason. :D
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Re: Shea Weber Accepts Offer Sheet from Phi (14 Years, 100 M

Postby coco_canuck » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:35 am

If the Preds were planning on keeping Suter and Weber, then the front loaded money shouldn't be an issue.

And if Nashville matches, what's the point of making a multiyear offer sheet?

Seems to me Weber signed the biggest possible deal in the hopes of the Preds matching, unless he, or his agent, know something about Nashville's financial situation that we don't know.

It's too early wet the bed and cry over Gillis not signing Weber to this offer-sheet. Now if the Predators don't match...then there can be some second guessing...otherwise, as it's been noted by a few, why help Weber get paid by his home team?
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Re: Shea Weber Accepts Offer Sheet from Phi (14 Years, 100 M

Postby Aaronp18 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:43 am

Yeah Poile has stated, as ODB quoted, that they will match any offer sheet sent Shae's way.

They have to match or they might as well quit the league. The way Philly competes they will be late first rounders for four years without question. Chances are they won't get anyone close to Weber's talent level in those picks.

Basically Holmgren has helped Shae get the deal he wants with Nashville. Maybe he wants to stay there or maybe he wants out and will ask to be traded when the season is done. Hell it may be that he's only going to play a partial season depending on how the CBA negotiations go!

Just don't expect Poile to move him to Philly anytime soon 8-)
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Re: Shea Weber Accepts Offer Sheet from Phi (14 Years, 100 M

Postby ODB » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:43 am

Jovocop wrote:Yes, money-wise might not be good for the Preds; however,Poile will not lose Weber to UFA for sure. Letting Hamhuis walked for a low draft pick 2 seasons ago and losing Suter to Minny this season for nothing, Poile cannot afford to lose Weber next season. At the end of the day, the money is coming from the owner's pocket, not Poile.


I'm not sure what you're talking about? Nobody ever suggested for a second Poile would risk losing Weber as a UFA???
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Re: Shea Weber Accepts Offer Sheet from Phi (14 Years, 100 M

Postby Jovocop » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:54 am

ODB wrote:
Jovocop wrote:Yes, money-wise might not be good for the Preds; however,Poile will not lose Weber to UFA for sure. Letting Hamhuis walked for a low draft pick 2 seasons ago and losing Suter to Minny this season for nothing, Poile cannot afford to lose Weber next season. At the end of the day, the money is coming from the owner's pocket, not Poile.


I'm not sure what you're talking about? Nobody ever suggested for a second Poile would risk losing Weber as a UFA???


If, only if, a team signs Weber to a year offer sheet, Poile would be in big trouble. If Poile matches, Weber cannot be traded and will be an UFA next season. If he does not, Weber is gone for draft picks only. Wouldn't that be a nightmare for Poile? Now, Holmgren made sure that it would not happen.
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