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Re: Shane Doan

Postby the Dogsalmon » Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:59 pm

way she goes boys...way she fuckin' goes...
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby Fred » Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:10 pm

Schultz wanted to play ? so he went to Edmonton! wants he going to do now ? he's signed an NHL contract
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby Topper » Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:20 pm

Clearly Gillis should have gone to the you know wot family of owners and had Jamison whacked. Bobby Clarke would have handled it all by himself if he were GM.
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby ClamRussel » Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:23 pm

Todd Bersnoozi wrote:Oh well, @ least Gillis got Garrison I guess. Bit of an unknown and had 1 great year, hopefully he'll be a solid player for us for a few years.


I don't see it that way, he had one good year. From what I gather, most of his goals came in the first half then he kind of dried up in the home stretch....and didn't have many assists despite playing the PP w/ Campbell. I figure he'll do ok here w/ Hank setting up his cannon on the PP....but he'd have to have more than doubled his meagre assist total to be "great". I'm glad we got him and all, big body...pretty solid in his own end....but 33pts...we'll see if he can improve on that here. There are still some question marks.
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby RoyalDude » Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:33 pm

I see Garrison as another Adrien Aucoin. Anybody else on board with me with that comparison?

Back to Doan. Damn glad the old man hit pay dirt somewhere else. The old man experiment doesn't work here, see Sundin, and Messier.

Anyhow, a real successful off-season for Mike Gillis. I shouldn't be to dower about it. The Burrows extension is good for this organization. I mean Gillis is a real pro at re-signing previous managements players, I just wish he was better at making his own mark here instead of riding on the coat-tails of Nonis and Burke.

I dohope that the Garrison signing doesn't prove that making deals for Florida Panther players end up being shite acquisitions for us.
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby Todd Bersnoozi » Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:37 pm

If Garrison can be an Aucoin type player for us for a few years, that'd be sweet (solid in both ends, logs lot of minutes and scores some goals with the bomb shot once in awhile). :D


RoyalDude wrote:I see Garrison as another Adrien Aucoin. Anybody on board with me with that comparison?
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby RoyalDude » Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:39 pm

Todd Bersnoozi wrote:If Garrison can be an Aucoin type player for us for a few years, that'd be sweet (solid in both ends, logs lot of minutes and scores some goals with the bomb shot once in awhile). :D


RoyalDude wrote:I see Garrison as another Adrien Aucoin. Anybody on board with me with that comparison?


Your retort makes it sound like I ain't to hip to Aucoin's game, in which I am.
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby ClamRussel » Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:20 am

RoyalDude wrote:I see Garrison as another Adrien Aucoin. Anybody else on board with me with that comparison?

...perhaps a bit more physical but ya I always saw him that way...rocket from the point but not much in the way of setting up the play. Certainly not a QB.
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby Todd Bersnoozi » Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:37 am

Kewl, I didn't think u were dissing him. I was an Oakie fan too. :D


RoyalDude wrote:Your retort makes it sound like I ain't to hip to Aucoin's game, in which I am.
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby FAN » Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:32 am

RoyalDude wrote:I see Garrison as another Adrien Aucoin. Anybody else on board with me with that comparison?

I say they definitely share similarities. I think Aucoin in his prime was better at moving around and finding open ice whereas Garrison is careful not to get caught up ice and just waits for an opportunity to unleash a hard low shot on net.

ClamRussel wrote:I don't see it that way, he had one good year. From what I gather, most of his goals came in the first half then he kind of dried up in the home stretch....and didn't have many assists despite playing the PP w/ Campbell. I figure he'll do ok here w/ Hank setting up his cannon on the PP....but he'd have to have more than doubled his meagre assist total to be "great".

He had one good offensive year, but he's been good defensively since he broke into the league. If he can log top 4 minutes alongside Edler, he should be worth the money.

As far as Garrison's assists totals, it's all relative. Garrison had 17 assists on one of the worst offensive teams in the league. Shea Weber had 30 assists last year. 3 Canucks defensemen had more assists than Weber. What does it prove? I'm not sure it even matters. Garrison didn't get a whole lot of assists on the PP, but he was clearly the triggerman whereas Campbell was the distributor. I would expect Garrison to improve on his assists totals if the Canucks remain a strong offensive team, but to expect him or require him to double his assists totals in order to be "great" is just unfair.

I think Garrison will be a great fit on the PP. His shot is of the hard, accurate, and low variety, which fits the Canucks PP like a glove. It's easy to see that it can become predictable if Kesler doesn't manage to tip it in, but looking at the goals that Garrison scored, I look forward to seeing what Garrison does in a Canucks jersey. I think the whole notion that Garrison only scored because "Campbell set him up" is exaggerated. If you look at the goals Garrison scored, most of those goals weren't scored off beautiful feeds. It was simply Garrison waiting to T up for a shot. Maybe Newell Brown should look into designing a PP around the Sedins and Garrison's shot. Usually, the Canucks like to have two point men who can shoot. Maybe the Canucks should look into having a pointman who acts more as a setup man for Garrison.
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby CrzyCanuck » Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:54 am

Excited about this signing...

for the Coyotes :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Thank god the Canucks didn't get this old fart for 6m per for the next 4 years


You know why he didn't sign with us?

I bet Messier called him. :P


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Re: Shane Doan

Postby Mr.Miyagi » Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:16 am

CrzyCanuck wrote:Excited about this signing...

for the Coyotes :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Thank god the Canucks didn't get this old fart for 6m per for the next 4 years


I agree completely. He would have been a nice addition but not for the money that was being suggested by the media earlier.

I don't understand the frustration with Gillis. I really don't. This was the thinnest free agent market in recent years. I was not expecting him to over pay for a star. (Doan, Parise, Suter, etc). Garrison surely could have gotten more elsewhere but he chose the Canucks.

I hope the new CBA limits contract lengths in the future because I think the free agent market needs to be a little more attractive. No offense to Doan or any thing but this summer was boring!
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby Fred » Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:59 am

The energy MG & Co.put into trying to sign Doan points to two things ......they have identified the type of player the team needs to be succesful plus they are acknolwledging that they have a decreasing time period or window to win the Cup!

Are they frustrated, you betcha. Here's the problem currently. Having failed to get the type of player they believe they need they have shown their hand to the fans, owners, competition, every other GM in the league. How do they correct it. Had they signed Doan the trade route for Luongo would have maybe lent towards a propspect in return, now that Doans gone it's full steam ahead for a active player.

Huge difference between today and yesterday for GMGM
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby Potatoe1 » Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:14 am

Fred wrote:The energy MG & Co.put into trying to sign Doan points to two things ......they have identified the type of player the team needs to be succesful plus they are acknolwledging that they have a decreasing time period or window to win the Cup!



Or perhaps like every other team they identified Doan as a really good player and like every other team they wanted to add another really good player.
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Re: Shane Doan

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:18 am

Fred wrote:The energy MG & Co.put into trying to sign Doan points to two things ......they have identified the type of player the team needs to be succesful plus they are acknolwledging that they have a decreasing time period or window to win the Cup!

Are they frustrated, you betcha. Here's the problem currently. Having failed to get the type of player they believe they need they have shown their hand to the fans, owners, competition, every other GM in the league. How do they correct it. Had they signed Doan the trade route for Luongo would have maybe lent towards a propspect in return, now that Doans gone it's full steam ahead for a active player.



Yes just because they went after a quality veteran hockey player they have acknowledged to the world that the window is shrinking. Where do people come up with this shit ? He was a fucking UFA that could be had for money and money alone. No prospects, picks or players going the other way just cash. I for one am pissed he didn't sign here . The deal was apparently 4 years....20 million, no idea why people keep shouting about 6 - 7.5 million per season . Five million a year for Doan is a fair price and one I would have been fine with MG paying.

Fred their hand has been shown since March 8th, 2004. They need a big power forward to play in their top 6. You act as though the whole league just found this out yesterday.

As I said real nice summer MG. Kick your feet up during the lockout .
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