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The mildly ridiculous trade proposals thread

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:51 pm
by surreal78
Alrighty, since we're entering the doldrums of summer and it's friggin' hot as a convection oven in my apartment right now, I was thinking a little levity might lighten the mood.

Since we're doing a whole lot of trade speculation in other threads, and I don't see any "official" speculation thread, here we go.

My first suggestion: Ales Hemsky (EDM) for Keith Ballard (VAN) + a mid-round pick

Before you crap all over this one (and I know Hemsky is nearly as injury prone as Sami Salo), here's the basic thinking:

- Oil needs defensive help badly
- Van could use a decent setup man on the 2nd line
- Salaries & contracts aren't particularly far apart (Ballard $4.2m & 3 years let, Hemsky $5m & 2 years left)
- Hemsky probably needs out of Edmonchuk as much as Ballard needs out of Vancity

I know they both have their warts, but could this scenario make sense for both teams and both players?

I've also seen suggestions of Hjalmarsson for Gagner, so this is basically along the same lines.

Thoughts? Other proposals welcome, just keep them reasonably non-ridiculous. 8-)

Re: The mildly ridiculous trade proposals thread

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:35 pm
by CFP!
I would consider an Edler trade, if we had Weber in the wings.

To Van
Gudbranson
Theodore
pick

To FLA
Edler
Luo

*IF we had Weber in our wings*

Re: The mildly ridiculous trade proposals thread

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:56 pm
by RoyalDude
I find it funny how everyone is quick to ship Edler off to the pastures after a little spell of struggling with his game when just before that people were calling him a future Norris Trophy winner. How quickly you fall out of favor in this city. Sort of reminds me how everyone was trading Bieksa like no tomorrow prior to Salo blowing out his achilles. Much to the chagrin of all his detractors, Bieksa goes out and his best season ever.

I think Ballard is going to the Islanders for Josh Bailley. However, I think no trade happens until Gillis gets word from the Weber/Poile negotiations that Weber will test UFA after this season, in which I see that dragging out all summer, even into next season. Then I think Poile will let the flood gates open on trade offers if Weber don't sign with Nashville. I think this is what is stalling the Luongo trade. I'm seeing a three-way trade somewhere here, involving Florida, that being said, I think Gillis will have serious competition for the services of Weber, we just got a hope that Weber limits Poile's options by only willing to waive for a few teams, one of them being us. I think there is more to it than Gillis not being happy with what Toronto and Florida are offering. Florida has no serious need for a Luongo, but they are the one with lots to offer which is the exact opposite of Burkes situation in Toronto. He needs Luongo badly but he doesn't have a lot of interesting parts to part with other than Gardiner in which it's becoming clear that Burke does not want to trade him.

I would dearly love to see Booth traded as you all know, but there is no market for him. Ugly contract, amount and term and too flakey, one dimensional and lackluster and passionless.

Re: The mildly ridiculous trade proposals thread

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:15 pm
by surreal78
RoyalDude wrote:I'm seeing a three-way trade somewhere here, involving Florida, that being said, I think Gillis will have serious competition for the services of Weber, we just got a hope that Weber limits Poile's options by only willing to waive for a few teams, one of them being us.
As much as I'd love to see a 3-way trade (they are fun to dissect), it's pretty damned rare. Outside of Downie/Quincey/1st last year (which was more of a late flip than a 3-way), I really don't remember the last time it happened with anyone of significance. Realistically, if you want Weber, Edler is going to be the first piece of the deal from our end (among many.)
RoyalDude wrote:I would dearly love to see Booth traded as you all know, but there is no market for him. Ugly contract, amount and term and too flakey, one dimensional and lackluster and passionless.
Alright Dude, I'll play. I'm neutral on the guy, but I know you've got a hate-on for him. :devil: Where do you ship Booth, and for what return?

Re: The mildly ridiculous trade proposals thread

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:51 pm
by Canuck-One
CFP! wrote:I would consider an Edler trade, if we had Weber in the wings.

To Van
Gudbranson
Theodore
pick

To FLA
Edler
Luo

*IF we had Weber in our wings*

This trade proposal is a joke right? You would give up an all-star goalie and a potential Norris Trophy D for a first year D and a past his best date goalie????????????? This is exactly what I mean when I say that some of you guys under value the Canuck players.

Re: The mildly ridiculous trade proposals thread

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:53 pm
by CFP!
RoyalDude wrote:I find it funny how everyone is quick to ship Edler off to the pastures after a little spell of struggling with his game when just before that people were calling him a future Norris Trophy winner. .
Edler is our most coveted piece on the back end.

I dont want to move him, but I never want to move Bert or Linden either. If you have Weber in the wings *so to speak* signing a LTC through trade or FA then Edler is expendable. Thats the only way you move him. Not bcs he may---be a future struggling norris winner............

What I find funny about your post is you actually find value in any Canuck player.

Re: The mildly ridiculous trade proposals thread

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:00 pm
by CFP!
Canuck-One wrote:

This trade proposal is a joke right? You would give up an all-star goalie and a potential Norris Trophy D for a first year D and a past his best date goalie????????????? This is exactly what I mean when I say that some of you guys under value the Canuck players.
Your post has many "possibilities".

Weber has at least been a candidate and after being on the Luo supportive bandwagon since he came here I am now only willing to listen to moving him after he announced on the FOX (which I regularly listen to) that he was on his way out.

Lots of posters throwing everyone into the same pot here.

Edit: sorry for the ros.

Re: The mildly ridiculous trade proposals thread

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:08 pm
by CaptainTrev
Wow.

In the space of an 45 minutes and one reply, this became another Shea Weber thread.

Image

:lol:

My mildly ridiculous (possibly brain-damaged) proposal:

To MTL: Ballard, Raymond
To VAN: Gomez, Yannick Weber, Jarred Tinordi

Monteal is desperate to offload Gomez. Gillis uses that leverage to turn two of our spare parts into a decent young right-shooting defenceman (Weber) and the player he always wanted instead of Ballard (Tinordi)

We audition Gomez as our 2nd line centre and wait to see if he can click on a line with Kesler; if Gomez can play a reasonable two-way game then he's at least as viable an option as Ebbett or Schroeder.

Re: The mildly ridiculous trade proposals thread

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:13 pm
by CFP!
CaptainTrev wrote:Wow.

In the space of an 45 minutes and one reply, this became another Shea Weber thread.

Image

:lol:
*bump*

Re: The mildly ridiculous trade proposals thread

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:15 pm
by Strangelove
I get it, trying to confine Farhan to ONE THREAD eh! :wink:

Re: The mildly ridiculous trade proposals thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:20 am
by Todd Bersnoozi
Hemsky for Ballard is an interesting trade idea. Would help meet some of the needs on both teams and both guys could probably use a change in scenery.

Re: The mildly ridiculous trade proposals thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:57 am
by CaptainTrev
Strangelove wrote:I get it, trying to confine Farhan to ONE THREAD eh! :wink:
Nah, I'd love to see Shea Weber in a Canucks uniform as much as anyone. Haven't actually noticed any new threads from Farhan lately....just tired of all these "what ifs" We've got enough of those with Luongo.

Wake me when SOMETHING ACTUALLY HAPPENS! A bold move, if you will. :lol:

And no, FLA's President being in Vegas does not count :)

Re: The mildly ridiculous trade proposals thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:58 am
by Arachnid
Strangelove wrote:I get it, trying to confine Farhan to ONE THREAD eh! :wink:
He said 'mildly' not inanely incompetent 8-)

Re: The mildly ridiculous trade proposals thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:46 am
by vic
Did Schneider get a NTC?

If not, has his value increased even more now that he's signed to a contract for the foreseeable future?

Re: The mildly ridiculous trade proposals thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:48 am
by donlever
vic wrote:Did Schneider get a NTC?

If not, has his value increased even more now that he's signed to a contract for the foreseeable future?

Having a similar thought process I tried to look this up after he signed and could find no evidence that there was a NTC/NMC at all.

Cap Geek indicates none.

Having said that I think it's clear they have elected to go with Cory as their #1 and did so some time ago.

As I am sure you already know.