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Wild agree to terms with Suter and Parise
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:40 am
by mathonwy
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=399913
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And the NW division just got a lot more interesting.
Re: Wild agree to terms with Suter and Parise
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:07 am
by Eddy Punch Clock
Not for Calgary.
Re: Wild agree to terms with Suter and Parise
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:12 am
by BladesofSteel
$7.5 and change over 13 years for both players???
Wow, how brutal does Luongo's deal look now?
Finally, the domino has dropped.
Re: Wild agree to terms with Suter and Parise
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:18 am
by Eddy Punch Clock
BladesofSteel wrote:
Finally, the domino has dropped.
Who's the next domino, Luongo or Nash?
Re: Wild agree to terms with Suter and Parise
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:22 am
by Blaster86
Too much money for the wrong players. Needed Weber's shot more than Suter and a center more than a winger (they have solid wingers, Mark Cullen is not a 2nd line center) and relying on Granlund to step up and right into that role is damn foolish.
Re: Wild agree to terms with Suter and Parise
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:28 am
by Hockey Widow
So now David Poile is very disappointed and a little upset, misled perhaps. Says in all his negotiations with Suter beginning last year never once did Suter say location was his primary motivating factor. Now Suter says location was the big thing for him. So why does Poile feel a little misled ? Because had Suter said these things last January then Poile may have traded the big guy and gotten a return. Same scenario with Hamhuis. Hamhuis only said he wanted to test FA but when he signed with the Canucks, actually left money on the table to do so, he said it was location that motivated him.
So the lesson here is for GM's to really know what motivates these guys and act accordingly.
Poile felt all along he could re-sign Suter but it appears that he really never had a chance. That has him feeling disappointed and a little misled along the way.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall when he talks with Weber about a new deal.
Re: Wild agree to terms with Suter and Parise
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:28 am
by FAN
The Wild are much improved.
Re: Wild agree to terms with Suter and Parise
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:37 am
by Topper
HW, I suspect the idea of a tandem with Zach and the commitment that meant the Wild were willing to make combined with being close to home.
Re: Wild agree to terms with Suter and Parise
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:39 am
by the Dogsalmon
Hockey Widow wrote:So now David Poile is very disappointed and a little upset, misled perhaps. Says in all his negotiations with Suter beginning last year never once did Suter say location was his primary motivating factor. Now Suter says location was the big thing for him. So why does Poile feel a little misled ? Because had Suter said these things last January then Poile may have traded the big guy and gotten a return. Same scenario with Hamhuis. Hamhuis only said he wanted to test FA but when he signed with the Canucks, actually left money on the table to do so, he said it was location that motivated him.
So the lesson here is for GM's to really know what motivates these guys and act accordingly.
Poile felt all along he could re-sign Suter but it appears that he really never had a chance. That has him feeling disappointed and a little misled along the way.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall when he talks with Weber about a new deal.
I can see it now...Poile asks Weber..."Shea,what do you want"?
Answer..."A 100 million deal from the Canucks"
Re: Wild agree to terms with Suter and Parise
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:40 am
by Blaster86
FAN wrote:The Wild are much improved.
They are improved. Not much. Sitting on the edge of cap hell and no real depth on D or at Forward. We've seen this play out before in different cities. Go for a big home run and more often than not, you strike out.
Re: Wild agree to terms with Suter and Parise
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:54 am
by paddy
Pacific Blue's love for everything Oil the Wild just may have the best upside within the division in the upcoming yrs their prospects are really good... The two biggest losers today obviously the Preds but Detroit when July 1 started had more cash to spend than anybody...
the times they are a changin...Good on Minny good on Edmonton big time players in free agent frenzy...
Re: Wild agree to terms with Suter and Parise
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:54 am
by dbr
Blaster86 wrote:FAN wrote:The Wild are much improved.
They are improved. Not much. Sitting on the edge of cap hell and no real depth on D or at Forward. We've seen this play out before in different cities. Go for a big home run and more often than not, you strike out.
I don't see cap hell for them, they basically have a full roster and no real big free agents to worry about. Backstrom's $6m comes off the cap next year and Heatley's $7.5m the year after.
Pierre-Marc Bouchard is $4m of LTIR waiting to happen.
As for your previous comment that they got the wrong players, I might be inclined to agree but frankly the right kind of players just don't hit free agency all that often and there weren't any of them this year. Sure they could use Chara and Weber more than Suter, and sure they could use Kopitar or Kesler better than Parise but they can use Suter and Parise a hell of a lot more than they could use Kurtis Foster and .. Andrei Kostitsyn? Who else is left?
Re: Wild agree to terms with Suter and Parise
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:04 am
by $lacker
I just don't get how they are going to make this work Cap-Wise:
Suter: 7.5 million
Parise: 7.53 million
Heatly: 7.53 million
Koivu: 6.75 million
Backstrom: 6 million
35 million in 5 players? According to CapGeek they have approx 600k of cap space yet and only 24 players under contract... better hope the cap doesn't go down in the new CBA.
Re: Wild agree to terms with Suter and Parise
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:08 am
by dbr
Only 24? There is a 23 player limit on rosters during the season so they are just fine.
Re: Wild agree to terms with Suter and Parise
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:12 am
by BCExpat
Eddy Punch Clock wrote:
Not for Calgary.
Doesn't make much difference for Calgary. Sure, the Wild have gotten stronger, but other teams have either not improved or regressed, so it's a wash.