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Re: Rumor: Aaron Volpatti re-signs
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:20 pm
by Farhan Lalji
Fred wrote: I here Jason Garrison has emptied every thing outta Florida and wants to end up in Vcr. At least we don't have to clean up more Tallon Cap Space. I'm almost scared of MG talking to Tallon
Fred,
No offense, but I think you need to give your head a shake. According to real sources, Garrison has expressed an interest in playing for Vancouver and there is real evidence to support the fact that Garrison is on his way out of Florida. If you're going to post stuff like this, can you please provide credible sources? I can provide my sources if you want.
Re: Rumor: Aaron Volpatti re-signs
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:26 am
by Chef Boi RD
This is a good signing. Volpatti's ceiling is so much more higher than that of Weise and Bitz. I just love how Volpatti packs a punch, ie Winchester and Sutton. His punch has knockout potential behind, plus he seems to be a smart fighter as well, he just needs some seasoning behind him. I also like the fact that he can lay out some punishing hits unlike Bitz and Wiese, and I also think that he has the potential to put up points as he gains more experience, ie sort of a Clarkson type. Like the kids potential.
Re: Rumor: Aaron Volpatti re-signs
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:12 am
by Fred
Farhan Lalji wrote:Fred wrote: I here Jason Garrison has emptied every thing outta Florida and wants to end up in Vcr. At least we don't have to clean up more Tallon Cap Space. I'm almost scared of MG talking to Tallon
Fred,
No offense, but I think you need to give your head a shake. According to real sources, Garrison has expressed an interest in playing for Vancouver and there is real evidence to support the fact that Garrison is on his way out of Florida. If you're going to post stuff like this, can you please provide credible sources? I can provide my sources if you want.
Hey I can give my sources too but I'm not divulging them. The info was given in confidence. I believe it's a simple confirmation of what most of us already know...no big deal
Re: Rumor: Aaron Volpatti re-signs
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:15 am
by Fred
Farhan Lalji wrote:Fred wrote: I here Jason Garrison has emptied every thing outta Florida and wants to end up in Vcr. At least we don't have to clean up more Tallon Cap Space. I'm almost scared of MG talking to Tallon
Fred,
No offense, but I think you need to give your head a shake. According to real sources, Garrison has expressed an interest in playing for Vancouver and there is real evidence to support the fact that Garrison is on his way out of Florida. If you're going to post stuff like this, can you please provide credible sources? I can provide my sources if you want.
Re: Rumor: Aaron Volpatti re-signs
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:27 am
by clem
Volpatti has heart - something this team lacked down the stretch.
However, his hockeyfights ratings don't inspire confidence.
6-1, 185lbs, & 4 out of 5 fights last season were losses.
Re: Rumor: Aaron Volpatti re-signs
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:45 am
by Island Nucklehead
clem wrote:Volpatti has heart - something this team lacked down the stretch.
However, his hockeyfights ratings don't inspire confidence.
6-1, 185lbs, & 4 out of 5 fights last season were losses.
I think he's closer to 215 than 185...
That said. He's not young. He's 27 years old, so guys like Weise (23) have a few years of youth on him. He does pack a punch, but I'm not sold on his offensive potential. His career high ever was 32 points in 37 games as a college senior. If he scores 10 points in an NHL season it'd be great. He is what he is and a guy on the fourth line that can get in hard on the forcheck for 600K is never a bad thing.
Re: Rumor: Aaron Volpatti re-signs
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:57 am
by clem
I saw that Wiki & NHL.com list him at 215, but he didn't look it to me - not in the regular season.
Winchester & Carcillo both rag-dolled him in their fights.
He & Raymond have something in common. A left hook followed by a fall. (skating/throwing).
Re: Rumor: Aaron Volpatti re-signs
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:44 am
by Aaronp18
clem wrote:
Winchester & Carcillo both rag-dolled him in their fights.
I also recall the fight where Volpatti one punched Winchester.
Re: Rumor: Aaron Volpatti re-signs
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:57 pm
by Chef Boi RD
Island Nucklehead wrote:clem wrote:Volpatti has heart - something this team lacked down the stretch.
However, his hockeyfights ratings don't inspire confidence.
6-1, 185lbs, & 4 out of 5 fights last season were losses.
I think he's closer to 215 than 185...
That said. He's not young. He's 27 years old, so guys like Weise (23) have a few years of youth on him. He does pack a punch, but I'm not sold on his offensive potential. His career high ever was 32 points in 37 games as a college senior. If he scores 10 points in an NHL season it'd be great. He is what he is and a guy on the fourth line that can get in hard on the forcheck for 600K is never a bad thing.
We just don't see eye to eye Nucklehead. I have no idea what Weise brings to the table, he's a fucking awful fighter and like Oreskovich SHOULD NOT FIGHT. It's embarrassing, when Nathan Horton can beat up your designated tough guy - Dale Weise. At least with Volpatti he has that potential to knock someone into the next universe, Weise doesn't. The problem with Volpatti is that he doesn't know how good of a fighter he can actually be, in fights with Carcillo and such it was more of him being in awe and respecting his opponent too much. Once he realizes that "fuck, I can beat these guys" he will win more fights. That knockout against Winchester who is one of the better fighters of the league shows you what he is capable of, he just needs more confidence and seasoning. Plus, his hitting is ferocious unlike Weise who can't layout the nasty Dustin Brown like hit. I remember one game where Volpatti just rocked a Wild player behind the net, right in front of Staubitz like he was trying to get Staubitz going, I like that initiative, you would never see Weise do that cause, well, I don't blame him cause he can't fight his way out of a paper bag.
Re: Rumor: Aaron Volpatti re-signs
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:05 pm
by clem
Aaronp18 wrote:clem wrote:
Winchester & Carcillo both rag-dolled him in their fights.
I also recall the fight where Volpatti one punched Winchester.
I remembered that as well. The problem is that most NHL fights are a combination of holding, wrestling and boxing. Once Winchester '
caught' on to Volpatti's hand speed, he was unlikely to make the same mistake, in fighting hands free. Even the Ripper had a more difficult time fighting players after they saw his technique & adjusted.
Volpatti's one punch pre-season knock out was largely a result of: his being less known; & Winchester's recklessness.
Re: Rumor: Aaron Volpatti re-signs
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:10 pm
by Chef Boi RD
clem wrote:Aaronp18 wrote:clem wrote:
Winchester & Carcillo both rag-dolled him in their fights.
I also recall the fight where Volpatti one punched Winchester.
I remembered that as well. The problem is that most NHL fights are a combination of holding, wrestling and boxing. Once Winchester '
caught' on to Volpatti's hand speed, he was unlikely to make the same mistake, in fighting hands free. Even the Ripper had a more difficult time fighting players after they saw his technique & adjusted.
Volpatti's one punch pre-season knock out was largely a result of: his being less known; & Winchester's recklessness.
The Sutton knee buckle isn't enough for you to accept that yeah, Volpatti can pack a punch? Listen dude, Winchester is one of the smarter fighters in the game, to be able to get one by him and with that much pack is a feat in itself. You just plain don't like Volpatti and are worried that he will take your boy - Weise's job???? The bottom line is, and I think we can all agree ont his, Weise is a fucking punching bag who can get beat up by the likes of Nathan Horton who unlike Volpatti does not have the punching power to knock someone out, and is nowhere near the viscious hitter that Volpatti is. So why then, is your boy Weise on the team?
Re: Rumor: Aaron Volpatti re-signs
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:11 pm
by clem
RoyalDude wrote:The problem with Volpatti is that he doesn't know how good of a fighter he can actually be, in fights with Carcillo and such it was more of him being in
awe and respecting his opponent too much. Once he realizes that "fuck, I can beat these guys" he will win more fights. That knockout against Winchester who is one of the
better fighters of the league shows you what he is capable of, he just needs more confidence and seasoning.
I don't see how confidence is going to increase Volpatti's fighting abilities. It was overconfidence on Winchester's part than got him knocked on his ass. Surely Volpatti was more confident the second time they met, when he got whooped.
I do like Volpatti's hitting, but it does no good if he gets knocked into the IR.
Re: Rumor: Aaron Volpatti re-signs
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:13 pm
by Chef Boi RD
clem wrote:RoyalDude wrote:The problem with Volpatti is that he doesn't know how good of a fighter he can actually be, in fights with Carcillo and such it was more of him being in
awe and respecting his opponent too much. Once he realizes that "fuck, I can beat these guys" he will win more fights. That knockout against Winchester who is one of the
better fighters of the league shows you what he is capable of, he just needs more confidence and seasoning.
I don't see how confidence is going to increase Volpatti's fighting abilities. It was overconfidence on Winchester's part than got him knocked on his ass. Surely Volpatti was more confident the second time they met, when he got whooped.
I do like Volpatti's hitting, but it does no good if he gets knocked into the IR.
What are you talking about IR? What does that have to do with anything, the guy is 100% healthy
I just don't get how you would choose a useless fighter and hitter in Weise over Volpatti when it will be the one role on the team that those two will be fighting for.
Weise's chicken shit move against Shawn Thornton should be enough to not want this guy on our team, but hey, at least Weise knew better not to fight Thornton, cause if Horton can whoop his ass what do ya think Thornton would do to him? I just don't get how one can goad someone into a fight and then turtle? That was a low point in Canuck fighting history if you ask me.
Re: Rumor: Aaron Volpatti re-signs
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:18 pm
by clem
RoyalDude wrote:
The Sutton knee buckle isn't enough for you to accept that yeah, Volpatti can pack a punch? Listen dude, Winchester is one of the smarter fighters in the game, to be able to get one by him and with that much pack is a feat in itself. You just plain don't like Volpatti and are worried that he will take your boy - Weise's job???? The bottom line is, and I think we can all agree ont his, Weise is a fucking punching bag who can get beat up by the likes of Nathan Horton who unlike Volpatti does not have the punching power to knock someone out, and is nowhere near the viscious hitter that Volpatti is. So why then, is your boy Weise on the team?
When the other player won't oblige you by engaging in stand up boxing, it takes more than the ability to pack a punch.
Sorry to disappoint, but Weise isn't my boy.
Re: Rumor: Aaron Volpatti re-signs
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:22 pm
by Chef Boi RD
clem wrote:RoyalDude wrote:
The Sutton knee buckle isn't enough for you to accept that yeah, Volpatti can pack a punch? Listen dude, Winchester is one of the smarter fighters in the game, to be able to get one by him and with that much pack is a feat in itself. You just plain don't like Volpatti and are worried that he will take your boy - Weise's job???? The bottom line is, and I think we can all agree ont his, Weise is a fucking punching bag who can get beat up by the likes of Nathan Horton who unlike Volpatti does not have the punching power to knock someone out, and is nowhere near the viscious hitter that Volpatti is. So why then, is your boy Weise on the team?
When the other player won't oblige you by engaging in stand up boxing, it takes more than the ability to pack a punch.
Sorry to disappoint, but Weise isn't my boy.
The bottom line is Clem, something you refuse to acknowledge, fighters around the league now know that Volpatti has the ability to knock you out, unlike Weise's love-taps, he's done it twice in his short amount of time in the NHL, give the kid some room to improve, the ability is their. He just needs to hone is craft a little and stop being in awe of some of the known opponents whom some maybe his idols etc. I will take anyone who has the potential to knock you out and hit like Volpatti can over that useless Weise any day of the week, let the kid learn a little, the foundation is there. Just needs seasoning.