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Who is the best Canuck Forward in franchise history?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:35 pm
by ODB
Well the summer is here so why not re-hash and argue over who was the best? I added the top point producers but obviously left some significant names off the list. Feel free to add names. If all else fails and nobody agrees with you, remember youtube is your friend! :mrgreen:

Re: Who is the best Canuck Forward in franchise history?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:49 pm
by CrzyCanuck
Cody Hodgson :lol:

Re: Who is the best Canuck Forward in franchise history?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:14 pm
by okcanuck
No contest here.It has to be Bure. Easily the most talented hockey player to ever wear a Canucks jersey.

Re: Who is the best Canuck Forward in franchise history?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:38 pm
by Farhan Lalji
If we're talking in terms of pure talent, it's Alexander Mogilny hands down.

In terms of the best forward in Canucks history however, I think it's a tie between Henrik Sedin and Pavel Bure. Bure obviously kills Henrik in the scoring and excitement department, but Henrik is quite possibly one of the greatest playmakers in NHL history. Henrik is pretty good defensively, is durable as hell (he kills Pavel in this department), and has been a more consistent player year in year out.

If I had to choose between the two, I'd go with Henrik.....with Pavel coming in as a close 2nd. Naslund comes in at number 3, followed by Mogilny and then Linden. Bertuzzi gets the #6 spot.

Re: Who is the best Canuck Forward in franchise history?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:50 pm
by dbr
So Henrik is the best forward in Canucks history and Daniel is.. #7, maybe?

Re: Who is the best Canuck Forward in franchise history?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:00 pm
by Cornuck
I might suggest that the poll is "who is the best after Bure".

We may never have another player with the raw skill and ability to bring people out of their chairs again. Sure the Sedins are good, but they are nowhere near as good or exciting as Bure was.

Re: Who is the best Canuck Forward in franchise history?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:14 pm
by Farhan Lalji
dbr wrote:So Henrik is the best forward in Canucks history and Daniel is.. #7, maybe?
Yes. And I know that sounds crazy when you consider the fact that Henrik and Daniel have almost completely identical stats.

Again - just my opinion though. I think Henrik is a significantly more complete player than Daniel, and that without each other, Henrik's game wouldn't drop nearly as much as Daniel's would.

Henrik being a center also makes him more likely to be more valuable as well.

Re: Who is the best Canuck Forward in franchise history?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:20 pm
by Farhan Lalji
Cornuck wrote:I might suggest that the poll is "who is the best after Bure".

We may never have another player with the raw skill and ability to bring people out of their chairs again. Sure the Sedins are good, but they are nowhere near as good or exciting as Bure was.
Bure's biggest statistical output was 110 points back in the 92/93 season...........a time period where offense was infinitely easier to create. (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=662)

Henrik Sedin notched 112 points during the 09/10 season.

On top of that, Henrik has been a far more consistent player than Bure year in year out. (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... ?pid=34007).

Although injuries hampered Bure obviously, the guy had a number of medicore seasons.

On top of that - Bure brought almost absolutely nothing to the defensive side of the game.

Bure kills Henrik in terms of being exciting, but that doesn't mean he was better.

Henrik Sedin is the greatest Canuck forward of all-time.

Re: Who is the best Canuck Forward in franchise history?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:31 pm
by Farhan Lalji
After the 94/95 season, as much as I hate to admit, Bure only cared about scoring goals as a member of the Vancouver Canucks. He didn't bring any leadership, any inspiration, or anything "team" related whatsoever. And trust me - it pains me to say it because Bure is/was my co-favorite player of all-time.

Apparently - Bure received the same criticism in Florida.

Re: Who is the best Canuck Forward in franchise history?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:40 pm
by SKYO
I wish we had Bure in his prime for these last two playoffs, we'd be back to back Cup winners! :thumbs:

Re: Who is the best Canuck Forward in franchise history?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:48 pm
by Farhan Lalji
SKYO wrote:I wish we had Bure in his prime for these last two playoffs, we'd be back to back Cup winners! :thumbs:
I wonder if the same can be said about the 1994 version of Trevor Linden or Kirk McLean?

Re: Who is the best Canuck Forward in franchise history?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 2:00 am
by Todd Bersnoozi
Does Cam Neely count?

Re: Who is the best Canuck Forward in franchise history?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 2:47 am
by FAN
It's between Pavel Bure and the Sedins. There's no question that Bure was the more dynamic player, but I gave the nod to Henrik in part due to his durability, longevity, and accomplishments as a member of the Vancouver Canucks. Henrik's Hart and Art Ross wins seal it for Henrik.

The fact that Henrik is captain and has captained the Canucks to the Cup Finals put him in select company among Canuck captains. By the time Henrik's career is over, he may very well end up as the Canucks' all time leader in games played, assists, and points. Henrik just has too many accomplishments to ignore.

Re: Who is the best Canuck Forward in franchise history?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:30 am
by Per
What?! No Patrik Sundström?! :evil:

He did after all hold the franchise record for most points in a season by a centre till Henrik wiped it out, and he still has third place in that stat after Henrik & Henrik. Actually, looking at that stat kind of shows you Henrik Sedin's greatness as a playmaker:

Mosts points in a season for a centre on the Vancouver Canucks:
1) Henrik Sedin..... 09/10 112
2) Henrik Sedin..... 10/11 94
3) Patrik Sundström 83/84 91
4) Thomas Gradin.. 81/82 86
5) Thomas Gradin.. 82/83 86
6) Clifford Ronning. 92/93 85
7) Henrik Sedin..... 08/09 82
8) Henrik Sedin..... 11/12 81
9) Henrik Sedin..... 06/07 81
10) Trevor Linden.. 95/96 80

So, out of the ten best seasons, as measured by points scored for a Canucks centre, Henrik holds five! Including first and second place. :o

His fifth best season was better than Trevor Linden's best. :|

Anyway, jk, would not have voted for Patrik anyway, although I think he is sadly forgotten and needs to be mentioned more.

Looking at raw skill, a strong case can be made for Bure, but looking at contribution for the team, I think it's Henrik Sedin.
He is an allround player, one of the very best playmakers the league has seen, and he is consistent year in year out. He probably still has five good years in him, and by then he'll hold every franchise record not related to fighting or goaltending there is. Well, probably not goals scored in a season. And total career goals scored may belong to his brother. But still.

My vote goes to Henrik.

Re: Who is the best Canuck Forward in franchise history?

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:14 am
by Topper
Per wrote:What?! No Patrik Sundström?! :evil:
I would add Thomas Gradin in there as well. Or how about Andre Boudrias?