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Re: Booth kills baited bear

Post by Strangelove » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:32 pm

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Per wrote:

Jesus would have made a really lousy hockey player...

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Doesn't seem to bother Booth or Hamhuis or many other born agains :D
Are you troubled by a lot of "whooshing" sounds ole Freddy?

And hey, how about Stu "The Grim Reaper" Grimson? :thumbs:
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Re: Booth kills baited bear

Post by Strangelove » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:32 pm

RoyalDude on Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:59 pm wrote: you are right, I know fuck all about religion, I have never read the bible, never studied religion.
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Re: Booth kills baited bear

Post by Strangelove » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:33 pm

Per wrote:
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Per wrote: But on the bright side we have very few gun related deaths, Typically less than twenty per year.

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/sweden
Ummm "20 per year" HOMICIDE-by-gun deaths
+ 5 "unintentional" gun deaths
+ 120 suicide-by gun deaths :shock:
= more like 145 "gun related deaths".
Oops! Meant of course gun related homicides. :oops:
Strangelove wrote: Per, why are your fellow Swedes committing suicide at such a ridiculous rate??
We're actually at the OECD average. Sure, slightly higher than the US and Canada, but not significantly.
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/ ... the-world/
Says here Sweden is #23 with a bullet Statboy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_rate

Butt hay if I were a Swede I'd DEFINITELY blow my brains out! :drink:

Tongue in cheek of course, as twas my preceding post, but you knew that.... :wink:
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Re: Booth kills baited bear

Post by Fred » Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:06 pm

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Fred wrote: Ah Religions, very selective in which parts of the christian philosophy they like and which parts are overlooked...by choice. Tough to take serious when they're so hypocritical.
Did he really just call 93% of the world's population "hypocritical"! :crazy:

OMG Freddy, it's a lot closer to 100% you self-righteous sumbitch! :drink:

OMG!!!

You're living in a fantasy sumbitch! if you think Christians represent 93% of the world heck even religion in the western world is a dying concept. You just gotta get out of Abbotsford and travel a little more.

Ever lsitened to this ( it's about 1 hour long ) about the flaws in the "good book" ...you know the one that say thous shall not kill or blessed are the children

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0zWbL8Uqfw
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Re: Booth kills baited bear

Post by Per » Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:33 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Says here Sweden is #23 with a bullet Statboy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_rate
Well, yeah, that's wikipedia for you. :roll:

Some moron has replaced the official numbers with numbers from a suicide research report, which includes uncertain cases. The official figures for 2011 are 16.5 per 100,000 for men and 6.8 for women. Can't calculate the combined figure, since it should be weighted and I don't have time to look it up, but unweighted it would be 11.8. Will try to fix the wikipedia site when I have time.

Guess the 30th place in the list is for the 2008 WHO figures, but the trend is dropping in Sweden, so that figure was probably slightly higher.

Just have to point out though that most of the figures reported are incorrect. Suicides are heavily underreported, and especially in Catholic and Muslim countries. Do you really believe that there was not a single suicide in eg Jordan and Honduras? :eh:
Suicide carries a strong social stigma in catholic/muslim countries and therefor the official cause of death tends to be listed as accident, to spare their families. I mean, people who commit suicide aren't even allowed to be buried in hallowed ground according to church tradition.

I do believe most OECD countries give fairly accurate figures (although I'm a bit sceptical of the figures presented by Greece, Mexico and Italy) which is why I thought that comparisson was more relevant than including all the obvious bullshit figures from the highly religious third world. But whatever.
Strangelove wrote:Butt hay if I were a Swede I'd DEFINITELY blow my brains out! :drink:

Tongue in cheek of course, as twas my preceding post, but you knew that.... :wink:
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Re: Booth kills baited bear

Post by Per » Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:49 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Fred wrote: Ah Religions, very selective in which parts of the christian philosophy they like and which parts are overlooked...by choice. Tough to take serious when they're so hypocritical.
Did he really just call 93% of the world's population "hypocritical"! :crazy:

OMG Freddy, it's a lot closer to 100% you self-righteous sumbitch! :drink:

OMG!!!
Christians would be 33%, all religious 84%.

But sure, I can buy your 100% being hypocritical statement.

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Re: Booth kills baited bear

Post by RoyalDude » Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:08 pm

ukcanuck wrote:
A bit naïve this article, of course the world would be a better place, heaven on earth one might say, but that isn't the world we live in.

We humans brought evil into the mix with original sin. some might say it was a conscious decision on our part (Adam)
Others might say it we were tricked
(Serpent or Eve....or both)

Still others might say its in our nature and we cannot rise above out violent ways without direct help from Christ.

For that you kinda have to believe there is a God or at least one of your understanding, but considering God created the universe he might choose to save your ass, who knows?

The point is the best anyone can do is try to live the life Jesus set as an example...

So peace to everyone, but that doesn't make me stupid so if you are gonna roll the blitzkrieg, well fuck you...
Jesus Christ wrote: “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God.”
If it was easy you would just be called a son of a bitch...
So, in other words...Jesus died on the cross for nothing. These are the facts, the Christians of today simply do not practice what Jesus was preaching. If Jesus the extreme socialist came back today, I don't think the Arab Jew would be very happy with his so-called apparent followers who are nothing more than a violent, racist, greedy bunch of pornographic, snuff-film sado-masochists.
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Re: Booth kills baited bear

Post by Arachnid » Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:55 pm

RoyalDude wrote:
ukcanuck wrote:
A bit naïve this article, of course the world would be a better place, heaven on earth one might say, but that isn't the world we live in.

We humans brought evil into the mix with original sin. some might say it was a conscious decision on our part (Adam)
Others might say it we were tricked
(Serpent or Eve....or both)

Still others might say its in our nature and we cannot rise above out violent ways without direct help from Christ.

For that you kinda have to believe there is a God or at least one of your understanding, but considering God created the universe he might choose to save your ass, who knows?

The point is the best anyone can do is try to live the life Jesus set as an example...

So peace to everyone, but that doesn't make me stupid so if you are gonna roll the blitzkrieg, well fuck you...
Jesus Christ wrote: “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God.”
If it was easy you would just be called a son of a bitch...
So, in other words...Jesus died on the cross for nothing. These are the facts, the Christians of today simply do not practice what Jesus was preaching. If Jesus the extreme socialist came back today, I don't think the Arab Jew would be very happy with his so-called apparent followers who are nothing more than a violent, racist, greedy bunch of pornographic, snuff-film sado-masochists.
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Re: Booth kills baited bear

Post by ukcanuck » Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:23 am

RoyalDude wrote:
ukcanuck wrote:
A bit naïve this article, of course the world would be a better place, heaven on earth one might say, but that isn't the world we live in.

We humans brought evil into the mix with original sin. some might say it was a conscious decision on our part (Adam)
Others might say it we were tricked
(Serpent or Eve....or both)

Still others might say its in our nature and we cannot rise above out violent ways without direct help from Christ.

For that you kinda have to believe there is a God or at least one of your understanding, but considering God created the universe he might choose to save your ass, who knows?

The point is the best anyone can do is try to live the life Jesus set as an example...

So peace to everyone, but that doesn't make me stupid so if you are gonna roll the blitzkrieg, well fuck you...
Jesus Christ wrote: “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God.”
If it was easy you would just be called a son of a bitch...
So, in other words...Jesus died on the cross for nothing. These are the facts, the Christians of today simply do not practice what Jesus was preaching. If Jesus the extreme socialist came back today, I don't think the Arab Jew would be very happy with his so-called apparent followers who are nothing more than a violent, racist, greedy bunch of pornographic, snuff-film sado-masochists.
No one can practice what Jesus preached, thats the whole point dude. you need his help to live it, so you better start praying

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Re: Booth kills baited bear

Post by Per » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:04 am

ukcanuck wrote:
RoyalDude wrote: So, in other words...Jesus died on the cross for nothing. These are the facts, the Christians of today simply do not practice what Jesus was preaching. If Jesus the extreme socialist came back today, I don't think the Arab Jew would be very happy with his so-called apparent followers who are nothing more than a violent, racist, greedy bunch of pornographic, snuff-film sado-masochists.
No one can practice what Jesus preached, thats the whole point dude. you need his help to live it, so you better start praying
I disagree. The early Christians went the full nine yards, practiced non-violence, no earthly possessions, the whole shebang. It was only after Paul hi-jacked this tiny Jewish sect, turned everything on its head and made it the most successful McReligion of all time that people got the notion that they could call themselves Christians while ignoring everything Jesus said, and once it became the official religion of the Roman empire, it got even worse.

Jesus always sided with the outsiders, the little guy. The church has pretty much always sided with the powerful.
Jesus was vehemently opposed to violence, the church has started a zillion wars in his name.

Yet there are those that have tried to stay true to his teachings even in relatively modern times, like eg the Quakers and to some extent the Jesuites. The liberation theology of Latin America (which started with the Jesuites) also comes pretty close to what Jesus taught. But the mainstream church basically goes against what Jesus taught.
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Re: Booth kills baited bear

Post by dbr » Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:53 am

ukcanuck wrote:No one can practice what Jesus preached, thats the whole point dude. you need his help to live it, so you better start praying
So because it's impractical to achieve all of it you might as well not bother trying any of it?

Sounds suspiciously like your professed stance on gun control. :sly:

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Re: Booth kills baited bear

Post by RoyalDude » Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:10 am

ukcanuck wrote:
No one can practice what Jesus preached, thats the whole point dude. you need his help to live it, so you better start praying
LMFAO...uk, stop it your killing me man. 'You need his help to live it'? What the fuck is that??? One of America's most valued rights - Freedom of Choice. Freedom of Speech. Nobody is stopping the Christian of today from staying true to Jesus words, the reason he died on the cross for the likes of you. I mean, isn't that why you are a Christian, shit do you even know why you are a Christian? What is so hard about 'turning the other cheek to violence'? Being against organized religion, being an extreme socialist, helping the need, against greed, against war blah, blah, blah. Doesn't sound so hard to me. There is no draft, Christian gun toting soldiers can bow out any time they like. Nobody is holding a gun against your head, UK to stop you from being true to Jesus words. He was a world peace loving man, meek shall inherit the earth. You idiots have completely butchered his ways into something else that has been pretty much the reason why there has been nothing but pure violence since they day he's died until now.

If Doc is right, 93% of the world is Christian??? Then there should be no need for violence if actually every Christian followed what Jesus was really about.

Do you think that Jesus would apply for a gun liscence and buy a human killing weapon like what Lanza had if he came back today? Would you see Jesus at NRA rallies? Would Jesus be a Republican, LMAO. Fuck, he'd practically be a communist. You guys just don't get it, which is why you all are the laughing stock of all religions. Hell, the Tibetan Monks are more true to Jesus words the McChristians of today and they ain't even Christians.
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Re: Booth kills baited bear

Post by ukcanuck » Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:49 am

Per wrote:
ukcanuck wrote:
RoyalDude wrote: So, in other words...Jesus died on the cross for nothing. These are the facts, the Christians of today simply do not practice what Jesus was preaching. If Jesus the extreme socialist came back today, I don't think the Arab Jew would be very happy with his so-called apparent followers who are nothing more than a violent, racist, greedy bunch of pornographic, snuff-film sado-masochists.
No one can practice what Jesus preached, thats the whole point dude. you need his help to live it, so you better start praying
I disagree. The early Christians went the full nine yards, practiced non-violence, no earthly possessions, the whole shebang. It was only after Paul hi-jacked this tiny Jewish sect, turned everything on its head and made it the most successful McReligion of all time that people got the notion that they could call themselves Christians while ignoring everything Jesus said, and once it became the official religion of the Roman empire, it got even worse.

Jesus always sided with the outsiders, the little guy. The church has pretty much always sided with the powerful.
Jesus was vehemently opposed to violence, the church has started a zillion wars in his name.

Yet there are those that have tried to stay true to his teachings even in relatively modern times, like eg the Quakers and to some extent the Jesuites. The liberation theology of Latin America (which started with the Jesuites) also comes pretty close to what Jesus taught. But the mainstream church basically goes against what Jesus taught.
yes you are right and in that respect its quite simple, all one really has to do is give away all his or her worldly possessions and spend the rest of their lives helping the poor and homeless and sick. It would probably be a great and wonderful life, but you know as well as I that giving your possessions away would mean that some rich guy would probably end up with it all. Your kids would lose out on their father and their inheritance. and your family would likely be calling in the psychiatrists.

You cant be in the world and of the world and live like Jesus or follow his example to the letter. life is about compromise, faced with opposing alternatives (feeding your child, feeding a poor child) you make choices, you pray to your God (Jesus if thats who it is for you) that you made the right choice and you move on. In this violent shit hole called civilization what else can anyone do?

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Re: Booth kills baited bear

Post by ukcanuck » Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:52 am

dbr wrote:
ukcanuck wrote:No one can practice what Jesus preached, thats the whole point dude. you need his help to live it, so you better start praying
So because it's impractical to achieve all of it you might as well not bother trying any of it?

Sounds suspiciously like your professed stance on gun control. :sly:
lol not exactly what i said, I said you do the best you can, and then you hope that God helps you out with the rest.

Just like you defend your family with what God gave you, (brains and courage) and then call on Winchester for the rest.

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Re: Booth kills baited bear

Post by RoyalDude » Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:21 am

ukcanuck wrote:
yes you are right and in that respect its quite simple, all one really has to do is give away all his or her worldly possessions and spend the rest of their lives helping the poor and homeless and sick. It would probably be a great and wonderful life, but you know as well as I that giving your possessions away would mean that some rich guy would probably end up with it all. Your kids would lose out on their father and their inheritance. and your family would likely be calling in the psychiatrists.

You cant be in the world and of the world and live like Jesus or follow his example to the letter. life is about compromise, faced with opposing alternatives (feeding your child, feeding a poor child) you make choices, you pray to your God (Jesus if thats who it is for you) that you made the right choice and you move on. In this violent shit hole called civilization what else can anyone do?
Well, if you can't do that, make a gods honest effort, then stop calling yourself a good Christian, you half-ass, cherry picking believer , or whatever suits your fancy. You just don't pick n choose what Jesus is about, "I like that, I can do that, don't like that won't do that...so on" You are either all in or all out, otherwise, ya truly ain't a Christian. Just some American Tele-Evangelist/George Bush butchered version of it. A McChristian with a Buschman Semi Automatic against Healthcare reform.
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