Offseason Wheelings and Dealings

[SKYO]

Regarding Ballard I'm hoping another insightful GM will recognize AV is literally destroying Ballard's career, as he needs a change scenery.

This is of course changes if Edler is swapped for Weber.

[Fred]

Remember Garrison partnered Brian Campbell last season so don't expect the same sort of number's in Vcr, Before Campbell arrived he was 5+13 in 73 games and a minus 2. I believe however he can play both sides which is good. I suspect Florida isn't going to re=sign him because they know what he's asking and understand the reason for his inflated stats last season. I'll be interest when he sign with who ever how much he signs for...good luck to the guy

[dbr]

Hey so, the NHL is looking at forcing New Jersey Devils owner Jeff Vanderbeek out of the picture if he can't make that colossal loan payment (more than double the Devils reporting playoff revenues this spring) in time - so if he doesn't come up with it the Devils will be looking at an ownership change or at bankruptcy.

Gotta wonder what the Parise camp thinks of this.

[dbr]

Remember Garrison partnered Brian Campbell last season so don't expect the same sort of number's in Vcr, Before Campbell arrived he was 5+13 in 73 games and a minus 2. I believe however he can play both sides which is good. I suspect Florida isn't going to re=sign him because they know what he's asking and understand the reason for his inflated stats last season. I'll be interest when he sign with who ever how much he signs for...good luck to the guy

Those who watch the Panthers say that Garrison has had a couple of good years now playing solid defensive hockey in tough minutes.. the numbers seem to back it up.

Even if the offensive production is more due to Campbell than to Garrison, he has a track record of steady, dependable play. That's something we could use - a dynamic offensive threat would be nice but given we had 3 of the top 30 defenders in scoring and more points from the D than the year previous, another calming presence on the blueline is probably of more use.

[Tciso]

Hey so, the NHL is looking at forcing New Jersey Devils owner Jeff Vanderbeek out of the picture if he can't make that colossal loan payment (more than double the Devils reporting playoff revenues this spring) in time - so if he doesn't come up with it the Devils will be looking at an ownership change or at bankruptcy.

Gotta wonder what the Parise camp thinks of this.

His camp is thinking that the league will pick up the tab, the same as they did for Phoenix. Carry on.

[BladesofSteel]

Jackman re-ups with St. Louis for another 3 years at $9.5 while the Sharks are expected to announce Brad Stuarts deal for 3 years as well. No figures yet.

[Jovocop]

Jackman re-ups with St. Louis for another 3 years at $9.5 while the Sharks are expected to announce Brad Stuarts deal for 3 years as well. No figures yet.

Too bad, Jackman is one of the defensemen that the Canucks could use, especially the contract seems very reasonable.

[JonT21]

I heard Jagr is testing free agency.

what do you guys think about this, should we try to sign him?

[wienerdog]

1040 also reporting that Pahlsson is heading back to Sweden next year, having signed with Modo. So I guess we are one option down - should make RD happy.

Also, FWIW, apparently his agent said that while they had very cursory conversations with management about re-signing, he was told that the Nucks have "big plans" for the off-season. Presumably, said plans stood in the way of signing Pahlsson any time soon, if at all.

Like I said, that's from TEAM 1040 about 2 hrs ago.

[BladesofSteel]

I heard Jagr is testing free agency.

what do you guys think about this, should we try to sign him?

Close out his career with one of he best passers in the game? Why not?

Likelihood of him even considering Vancouver? Next to none.

The dudes a spoiled little bitch. Given the fact he's played his entire career in the Eastern conference, there is absolutely no way he'd consider playing his last days on a club that travels 72,000 miles a season.

"Bigger, Younger, Faster."

[Hockey Widow]

1040 also reporting that Pahlsson is heading back to Sweden next year, having signed with Modo. So I guess we are one option down - should make RD happy.

Also, FWIW, apparently his agent said that while they had very cursory conversations with management about re-signing, he was told that the Nucks have "big plans" for the off-season. Presumably, said plans stood in the way of signing Pahlsson any time soon, if at all.

Like I said, that's from TEAM 1040 about 2 hrs ago.

At the time of the trade Per told us that Pahlsson had already committed to playing with Modo next year and that it would take something special to get Pahlsson to stay in the NHL. So no surprise but I did like him. We just don't need he and Manny both. That is if Manny can get back to where he was before the eye injury.

The big plan stuff coincides with the bold move stuff. Now all we have to do is wait and see if it really happens.

[Strangelove]

Well we were specifically talking Mason Raymond and you said $3mil.

Maybe you should have set the parameters to price for soft-as-shit perimeter 15-goals-prorated-over-82-games tiny forwards who have missed 39 games over the past 2 seasons.

Hansen brings more to the table at half the cap-hit of Bambi.

I didn't say Raymond should get $3M, I said the cost for 15 goal scorers is in the $1.5-3M range, and Raymond's salary in the $2.5M range puts him in that range. He may be overpaid, but in terms of what it costs to sign top 7-9 forwards who can pot 15 goals, that's what it typically costs.

Wait so he's "overpaid" and he gets "what players like him typically cost"??

Raymond's salary was tripled ($883K - $2.55mil) after a 25 goal season.

Not a 15 goal season, a 25 goal season.

Soft-as-shit perimeter 15-goals-prorated-over-82-games forwards who have missed 39 games over the past 2 seasons that earn $2.55mil are largely considered to be on bad contracts. Obviously Gillis considers it a bad contract (hence the "cutdown arbitration"). I say Raymond at $2.21mil is still a bad contract.

Still wondering why you brought up Joel Ward's contract.

Hansen does bring more, but how many players can you sign in FA that can do what Hansen does at the same price?

The only way we get that type of value from a player, is if someone on an entry level deal steps up, and that's also no guarantee.

Well we've got Hansen (16 goals), Burrows(28), and Higgins(18) all doing more whilst earning less. Raymond was on a 15 goal pace (10 goals in 55 games). Big whoop. Ebbet (5 goals in 18 games) was on a 23 goal pace whilst earning a paltry $525K. I disagree with your blanket statement that 15-goal-scorers fall in the $1.5-3M range.

Lappy's career average is 10 goals-per-82-games with limited ice-time.

We don't need Raymond and the injury-prone pussy is not worth $2.21mil

the cost for even 3rd liners who can score 15 or so goals, or bring the package Ward brings that you described, varies up into the $3M range.

Now, I don't think Raymond is worth that money at the moment, but if Raymond turns in a serviceable year, is solid both ways, kills penalties, adds speed, and pots 15 goals, he'll get something similar to Ward money on the free agent market.

You keep saying you don't wanna compare contracts and you keep bringing up Ward's contract.

You're doing alotta spinning and why are you talking about what Raymond COULD be worth one year hence.

That's the point of emphasis here, that Raymond doesn't need to be a star to be bring average value to his salary that would be $2.21-2.6M.

With the way Raymond performed the past 2 seasons he's not worth $2.21-2.6mil.

BTW you neglected to mention whether or not the revelation supplied by yours truly... that Mayray could in fact opt for a 2-year contract... affected your opinion in this matter.

I haven't seen confirmation that this is the case, and even if Mason did opt for the two year option, I'm fine with it as long as Aquilini is prepared to eat the contract if it doesn't work out.

Even if he can't get sent down due to the new CBA, the salary isn't so onerous to dissuade Gillis from looking for ways to rid himself of the deal.

There is a 2-year option, scary if the rules change, Aqua can only eat so much, and Gillis might have probs ridding it.

Worse, I might hafta see Raymond in a Canuck uni again.

NOT a fan of this move!

[Hockey Widow]

Doc

This move is perhaps just about retaining his rights without having to qualify him. I would suspect the Canucks will try to move him in a package. I also believe they will win their arbitration and if so his cap/salary will be more palatable to both the Canucks and making him more tradable.

Just my guess.

Yes, still a risk.

[RoyalDude]

I'm starting to think that Strangelove was that guy who called in on 1040 the other day with tears streaming down his face threatening that "IF. MASONRAYMOND! IS IN A CANUCK UNIFORM NEXT SEASON!!! I...WILLNEVER!!! WATCH...ANOTHER GAME....AGAIN!!!! I'M SERIOUS!!!

It was either him or Tantalum

[CFP!]

I'm starting to think that Strangelove was that guy who called in on 1040 the other day with tears streaming down his face threatening that "IF. MASONRAYMOND! IS IN A CANUCK UNIFORM NEXT SEASON!!! I...WILLNEVER!!! WATCH...ANOTHER GAME....AGAIN!!!! I'M SERIOUS!!!

It was either him or Tantalum

Tant doesn't have long distance, only nation wide.