Offseason Wheelings and Dealings

Welcome to the main forum of our site. Anything and everything to do with the Vancouver Canucks is dicussed and debated here.

Moderator: Referees

Re: Offseason Wheelings and Dealings

Postby Hockey Widow » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:40 pm

Potatoe1 wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:if the arbitrator buys the playing through and after serious injuries line he could award Raymond much more as I am sure he and his agent will counter. If that happens the Canucks cannot walk away.


They cant walk away but they could stick his ass on the farm if they need the cap space.

That would be worst case for Raymond, and a big reason why he should be reasonable.



Well then they risk losing him on waivers for nothing. Better to trade him if they have to.
The only HW the Canucks need
User avatar
Hockey Widow
CC Hall of Fan Member
 
Posts: 2978
Joined: Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:52 pm

Re: Offseason Wheelings and Dealings

Postby BladesofSteel » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:44 pm

Potatoe1 wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:if the arbitrator buys the playing through and after serious injuries line he could award Raymond much more as I am sure he and his agent will counter. If that happens the Canucks cannot walk away.


They cant walk away but they could stick his ass on the farm if they need the cap space.

That would be worst case for Raymond, and a big reason why he should be reasonable.

You don't think a team would claim him in a heartbeat Pot?

This is a smart move by Gillis, but I suspect its one that Gilman has his finger prints all over.
The grass is always greener
BladesofSteel
CC 1st Team All-Star
 
Posts: 741
Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:29 pm
Location: Lower left-hand corner

Re: Offseason Wheelings and Dealings

Postby Potatoe1 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:37 am

BladesofSteel wrote:You don't think a team would claim him in a heartbeat Pot?



Depends on his salary and how well he bounces back.

HW noted that the team "cant walk away" from a poor decision in arbitration.

My point was that if they get a result that they don't like they can send him to the farm (or try to move him). That would be the worst case scenario for Raymond, who needs to have a good year to get his career back on track

He really should take the 2.2, or try and negotiate a 2 year deal.

Going to arbitration and "winning", could actually hurt him if his salary and cap hit make him unappealing.
Last edited by Potatoe1 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:14 am, edited 1 time in total.
Potatoe1
CC Hall of Fan Member
 
Posts: 1612
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:06 pm

Re: Offseason Wheelings and Dealings

Postby tantalum » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:46 am

Regardless of other overpaid players on the team that may or may not exist, finding a way to save a few hundred thousnad under the cap and likely getting a better deal for longer term on a player isn't a bad thing. Good move by the management. I'm sure if they had options open to do similar things for other players they think are overpaid they would exercise those options but they don't. It doesn't mean you then don't exercise the option you do have.

I feel a 2 yr/$4mil total deal in Raymond's future.
User avatar
tantalum
CC Hall of Fan Member
 
Posts: 1911
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:41 am
Location: Carl Junction, MO

Re: Offseason Wheelings and Dealings

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:21 am

Spandex Boy wrote:
WooHoo! That's exciting news...once we get him off the team we will be good again. Him and that 2.5 million of his was really bringing this team down. He's such a major cancer in the room.



Good to see you're finally realizing how shitty Raymond is.
User avatar
Blob Mckenzie
CC Hall of Fan Member
 
Posts: 2774
Joined: Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:34 pm
Location: Oakalla

Re: Offseason Wheelings and Dealings

Postby Eddy Punch Clock » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:16 am

Chris Stewart re-signs at 3 mill.

btw- is this an NHL wheelings and dealing thread? Is there a better thread for these signings that I'm not aware of?

1 year deal btw. They obviously are wanting to see a bounce back season first.
2011..... the one that got away.
User avatar
Eddy Punch Clock
CC 1st Team All-Star
 
Posts: 951
Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:35 am
Location: The Wack

Re: Offseason Wheelings and Dealings

Postby donlever » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:57 pm

TSN REPORTS:

The NHL has rejected a four-year, $12-million contract between Chris Kelly and the Boston Bruins because of salary cap issues, according to RDS in Quebec.

However, the Bruins and general manager Peter Chiarelli expect the deal to be approved when free agency begins July 1.

"We've got a commitment from Kelly for four years," Bruins GM Peter Chiarelli told reporters Wednesday. "We're not able to register that contract yet because of payroll tagging issues."

In his first full season with the Bruins last season, Kelly scored 20 goals and added 19 assists for 39 points in 82 games. He was acquired from the Ottawa Senators in February of 2011.
A different goddamn hockey talk messageboard!
User avatar
donlever
CC Hall of Fan Member
 
Posts: 1607
Joined: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:07 pm

Re: Offseason Wheelings and Dealings

Postby dbr » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:02 pm

Eddy Punch Clock wrote:btw- is this an NHL wheelings and dealing thread? Is there a better thread for these signings that I'm not aware of?


Yeah, I imagined it would be an 'around the league' kind of thread and that anything significant that the Canucks do will get its own thread (or two, or three)..
dbr
CC Hall of Fan Member
 
Posts: 2290
Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2011 5:37 pm

Re: Offseason Wheelings and Dealings

Postby Jovocop » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:12 pm

Eddy Punch Clock wrote:Chris Stewart re-signs at 3 mill.

btw- is this an NHL wheelings and dealing thread? Is there a better thread for these signings that I'm not aware of?

1 year deal btw. They obviously are wanting to see a bounce back season first.


Who would you want on your team, a $3m Stewart or a $2.5m Raymond? I would take Stewart any time.
User avatar
Jovocop
CC Hall of Fan Member
 
Posts: 1570
Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:18 pm

Re: Offseason Wheelings and Dealings

Postby Farhan Lalji » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:22 pm

I still think it would be funny if the Canucks offered Tukka Raask (or however you spell his name) a 5-6 million dollar deal.........to which Boston either had to match or let him walk. Dustin Penner to Edmonton Part deux.

We steal Raask, trade both Luongo and Schneider, and watch Boston desperately try and trade for Kipper. :lol:

It would be a dumb move on our part, but for the purposes of keeping our rivalry in-tact, I'd definitely be down.

-Whatever we're paying to Lou goes to Raask.
-Luongo gets moved for something that can help our future
-Schneider gets moved for something that can help us now.
-Boston declines as an organization. No Thomas and now no Raask.
Farhan Lalji
 

Re: Offseason Wheelings and Dealings

Postby TDA Rum » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:20 pm

I have more faith in Raymond than Stewart.... i think Raymond is going to have a big year, this year...
TDA Rum
CC Veteran
 
Posts: 173
Joined: Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:14 pm

Re: Offseason Wheelings and Dealings

Postby Meds » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:28 pm

TDA Rum wrote:...i think Raymond is going to have a big year, this year...


^^^
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:drink:
User avatar
Meds
CC Hall of Fan Member
 
Posts: 2790
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:50 pm

Re: Offseason Wheelings and Dealings

Postby Potatoe1 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:48 pm

Jovocop wrote:
Who would you want on your team, a $3m Stewart or a $2.5m Raymond? I would take Stewart any time.


I didn't know we got to choose?
Potatoe1
CC Hall of Fan Member
 
Posts: 1612
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:06 pm

Re: Offseason Wheelings and Dealings

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:09 pm

Meds wrote:
TDA Rum wrote:...i think Raymond is going to have a big year, this year...


^^^
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:drink:


Totally agree. stewart has scored at a 50 point pace in the league and has shown flashes of brilliance as well as being a physical beast. Raymond has scored at a 30 point pace and has shown speed and the physicality of Edith Bunker .

TDA Rum he's called....... more likely he is chugging aqua valva and mouthwash.
User avatar
Blob Mckenzie
CC Hall of Fan Member
 
Posts: 2774
Joined: Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:34 pm
Location: Oakalla

Re: Offseason Wheelings and Dealings

Postby TDA Rum » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:15 pm

Just a feeling, it may not be with the Canucks but i think he ends up with over 50 points this year if he stays healthy...
TDA Rum
CC Veteran
 
Posts: 173
Joined: Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:14 pm

PreviousNext

Return to Canucks Corner Chat

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests