Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

[Arachnid]

Actually sir-spider I am not bitter. I just don't see any profit in continuing to hammer on Lou. simple fact is that our ability to score goals in the last half of this season, during the SCF and in this years abortive run were horrible. Simple fact is that our defence was incrediby porus once again this year with a series of incredible mental mistakes. Did Lou get blown out a couple times vs. Boston? Sure did. Did he bounce right back at skunk them a couple of times... sure did. Simple fact is that without Lou we were out in 4 during last years SFC. Simple fact is that without Lou and Cory playing stellar hockey through DEC-Feb we'd have been fighting for 8th in our conference and not the President's Trophy.

Bottom line this year is Lou needs to be traded - both for him and for us. We need the return and cap space to fill other glaring holes (of which I think defense is the biggest) and Lou needs a fresh start where he can use the new maturity and calm he found this last year to build a less dysfunctional relationship with the fanbase. Fact is the market on goalies favours us right now. Fact is the likely changes to the cap also favour us. I am hopeful for a solid return on a Lou trade. Not over the moon, just solid.

I am also awaiting next year wand wondering how long it is before the bash Cory bandwagon starts. What's the measure. Gotta have a 0.93 save next year and sub 2.0 gaa.... or are we thinking success will be .92 and 2.5... or are we looking for 30+ wins in 60 starts..... or is it win the cup or you are a bum?

Dear Mr. Waffler...have you ever met Roberto? Ever wonder why the team plays better in front of Cory than Luo? RL is a veteran with a gold medal and strong leadership capabilities but he also happens to be a dick.
He has to go because a teams synergy is important. An intangible that wins Cups.

Just my very (more) important opinion than anyone else's because I am a celebrity on here

[Uncle dans leg]

UDL .. maybe you should be a Bruins fan then.... sure Luongo has had some warts but he is not as bad as you make him out to be.. give it a rest..

Are you defending that crap out of Luo? I'm a lifelong Nucks fan. I even remember who Rick Heinz and Robin Bawa are... I wear Canucks slippers, drink from Canucks mugs, went through 2 jobs in Australia this past playoff run just to watch the games. I bleed green and blue(used to be orange and red) but hate to watch my elite #1 goalie lose his marbles every April and May. I absolutely detested listening to this guy flapping in the media this past June.
Whens Thomas going to pump my tires? It would be an easy save for me? Holy hell! What a knob!!!

[Farhan Lalji]

Dear Mr. Waffler...have you ever met Roberto? Ever wonder why the team plays better in front of Cory than Luo? RL is a veteran with a gold medal and strong leadership capabilities but he also happens to be a dick.
He has to go because a teams synergy is important. An intangible that wins Cups.

Just my very (more) important opinion than anyone else's because I am a celebrity on here

The team playing better in front of Corey has nothing to do with Roberto being a dick or not. With that logic, players would never have played well in front of Ed Belfour or Tim Thomas.

The team doesn't play as well in front of Luongo, particularly in the playoffs, due to the fact that they have no idea what to expect out of Lou. Absolute brilliance followed by one game followed by a possible nightmare the next. Luongo was pretty good against the Kings this past playoff, but his inconsistency in our losses to Chicago and Boston over the past 3 years is what lead to the distrust.........not his personality, lol.

[Farhan Lalji]

Whens Thomas going to pump my tires? It would be an easy save for me? Holy hell! What a knob!!!

In Lou's defense, he also complimented Thomas during that first interview (i.e. "he might make saves that I wouldn't make").

With that in mind, I don't think Luongo's comments were arrogant..........as opposed to ill-advised. He shouldn't have made those comments, but I don't think he can be faulted for being arrogant.

[TDA Rum]

That's a cool trick Farhan making it look like i quoted something that i did not quote.... but for the record i never posted anything about pumping Tim Thomas' tires...

UDL ... I am saying just because Lu doesn't know when to take the high road with some of his comments doesn't make him this horrible goaltender that you are making him out to be..... i have been a Canucks fan since day 1... your point is ?

[Uncle dans leg]

UDL ... I am saying just because Lu doesn't know when to take the high road with some of his comments doesn't make him this horrible goaltender that you are making him out to be..... i have been a Canucks fan since day 1... your point is ?

Agreed regarding the fact that his comments don't make him the horrible goaltender I'm making him out to be...His performances in crucial games do backed up by his arrogance that is totally unwarranted.

I only stated the depth of my canuck commitment because you were insinuating I should go cheer for Boston.

Look, we're all about to be watching him play for the Leafs (I can only assume). Lets hope I'm wrong about his value and Burkie over pays for him.

In this case, I would love to be wrong. just don't be too surprised if it's not 3 top prospects coming this way.

[Tciso]

Dear Mr. Waffler...have you ever met Roberto? Ever wonder why the team plays better in front of Cory than Luo? RL is a veteran with a gold medal and strong leadership capabilities but he also happens to be a dick.
He has to go because a teams synergy is important. An intangible that wins Cups.

Are you saying we lost the SCF to Boston because their Dick was bigger than our Dick??? Or that their dick was a tighter fit with the team? I'd support the latter, as I think the Bruins are a bunch of pussies.

[clem]

Are you saying we lost the SCF to Boston because their Dick was bigger than our Dick??? Or that their dick was a tighter fit with the team? I'd support the latter, as I think the Bruins are a bunch of pussies.

That could mean the Canucks got a capologist when what they really needed was a urologist.

[Island Nucklehead]

Agreed regarding the fact that his comments don't make him the horrible goaltender I'm making him out to be...His performances in crucial games do backed up by his arrogance that is totally unwarranted.

Hell, if the Canucks had lost 4-0 to the Kings last night they'd say Luongo was at fault for that one too...

You could also point to his 31 save Game 7 OT win (with a rather stellar save on the PK in OT) vs. Chicago last year. You could point to his out-duelling Rinne vs. Nashville. You could look at a 54 save, 2 GA win in the deciding game vs. San Jose. He was .957 at home in the SCF. The rest of his team couldn't get him 1 goal in the deciding game, and he's the one who's blamed.

People need to wake up. I feel for poor Schneider. When the defense let's him down, or when his forwards can't score... the fans will blame him too. Hopefully he's ready for it, because we're about to trade one of the better goalies in the league, and I'm not sure the hockey Gods will appreciate how we've treated far and away the best goalie this franchise has ever seen.

[ODB]

Hell, if the Canucks had lost 4-0 to the Kings last night they'd say Luongo was at fault for that one too...

You could also point to his 31 save Game 7 OT win (with a rather stellar save on the PK in OT) vs. Chicago last year. You could point to his out-duelling Rinne vs. Nashville. You could look at a 54 save, 2 GA win in the deciding game vs. San Jose. He was .957 at home in the SCF. The rest of his team couldn't get him 1 goal in the deciding game, and he's the one who's blamed.

People need to wake up. I feel for poor Schneider. When the defense let's him down, or when his forwards can't score... the fans will blame him too. Hopefully he's ready for it, because we're about to trade one of the better goalies in the league, and I'm not sure the hockey Gods will appreciate how we've treated far and away the best goalie this franchise has ever seen.

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[Tciso]

Hell, if the Canucks had lost 4-0 to the Kings last night they'd say Luongo was at fault for that one too...

You could also point to his 31 save Game 7 OT win (with a rather stellar save on the PK in OT) vs. Chicago last year. You could point to his out-duelling Rinne vs. Nashville. You could look at a 54 save, 2 GA win in the deciding game vs. San Jose. He was .957 at home in the SCF. The rest of his team couldn't get him 1 goal in the deciding game, and he's the one who's blamed.

People need to wake up. I feel for poor Schneider. When the defense let's him down, or when his forwards can't score... the fans will blame him too. Hopefully he's ready for it, because we're about to trade one of the better goalies in the league, and I'm not sure the hockey Gods will appreciate how we've treated far and away the best goalie this franchise has ever seen.

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[the Dogsalmon]

Are you saying we lost the SCF to Boston because their Dick was bigger than our Dick??? Or that their dick was a tighter fit with the team? I'd support the latter, as I think the Bruins are a bunch of pussies.

That could mean the Canucks got a capologist when what they really needed was a urologist.

who has kidney stones???

[dbr]

You know, I think you guys are right to an extent but for better or worse I think you have to link the eventual railroading of Luongo (or whatever term you wish to use to describe the last three or four years) to the adulation he received and the way he was made the face of the team in his first few seasons.

Schneider gets a lot of "backup Bob"-type love right now, and he's got a bright future so people are fawning over him a lot.

But he is not the guy who singlehandedly ended the goalie graveyard era, he's not the guy who carried the team to a division title (earning Hart and Vezina nominations along the way - unprecedented for a Canuck) and a close fought playoff loss.

He's not the guy who was named team captain and signed a lifetime contract. He's never going to have to deal with those kind of expectations; people aren't going to ask him to explain the team's effort after a loss and then ask everyone else what kind of teammate and captain he is after he gives them an honest answer.

I just don't think Schneider is going to have to carry the same kind of weight Lou has with this team - even if he'll have to carry far more than he does now.

[clem]

Are you saying we lost the SCF to Boston because their Dick was bigger than our Dick??? Or that their dick was a tighter fit with the team? I'd support the latter, as I think the Bruins are a bunch of pussies.

That could mean the Canucks got a capologist when what they really needed was a urologist.

who has kidney stones???

Previous diagnosis (Tciso) indicates a problem at the other end of the trac(t).

Although, you could have the beginnings of a good rumour.
Might explain some flopping around on the ice.

[Arachnid]

Hell, if the Canucks had lost 4-0 to the Kings last night they'd say Luongo was at fault for that one too...

You could also point to his 31 save Game 7 OT win (with a rather stellar save on the PK in OT) vs. Chicago last year. You could point to his out-duelling Rinne vs. Nashville. You could look at a 54 save, 2 GA win in the deciding game vs. San Jose. He was .957 at home in the SCF. The rest of his team couldn't get him 1 goal in the deciding game, and he's the one who's blamed.

People need to wake up. I feel for poor Schneider. When the defense let's him down, or when his forwards can't score... the fans will blame him too. Hopefully he's ready for it, because we're about to trade one of the better goalies in the league, and I'm not sure the hockey Gods will appreciate how we've treated far and away the best goalie this franchise has ever seen.

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I am taking notes and naming names....in 5 years time we shall see what we shall see....all else is uncivilized and unproven scientific theory (except the point about the team playing better in front of Cory because then love him more....that's just fact ....