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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby mnaslund » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:10 am

vic wrote:
mnaslund wrote:1. Lou wants out, canucks want to move him- everyone knows this


not gonna touch that one

mnaslund wrote:2. Lou decides what team he goes to, not our GM


It's a bit of both - Mike Gillis does NOT HAVE TO TRADE HIM. He can park him the press box or in the minors if he chooses. Lou has a No Trade Clause, not a No Movement Clause. If #1 is true and Lou does want out then I'm sure he'd be willing to open up the list of teams in order to be moved. If all he's going to get us is useless picks or b-grade prospects, he would have been traded by now.

Ohh really you have access to Mike Gillis' and other GM's thought processes regarding the uncertainty of the cba?? Wow that must be fun!!!

mnaslund wrote:3. For the sake of the dressing room gillis has to move him beforfore the season starts, saying otherwise is just posturing


You have access to the Canucks' dressing room? Wow, that must be fun! What else can you tell us about all the friendships and rivalries in that room?

I do, and Im assuming you want shower room photos but im sorry to say I dont have any. Doesnt take a grade 12 education to know that having him around would be a huge distraction for the team.
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby mnaslund » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:22 am

Some of you guys are worse then leaf fans I swear............... Luongo, is essentially useless to our team and I think its Mike Gillis' fault for letting the situation get this out of hand .
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby mnaslund » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:44 am

Mike Gillis should be fired and bring in a GM willing to do a proper rebuild. We are quickly becoming the calgary flames of the NHL, We made it to the cup finals and having done jack since. We need a GM willing to do what the flames management was not, and that is trade off any assets that still have value which really at this point is the sedins (ie inginla & kipper). If not im worried about what the status of this team will be.
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Tciso » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:50 am

FAN wrote: The current CBA is set to expire but it hasn't expired yet so it's business as usual as far as trades and contract negotiations go and there's absolutely no reason why the league won't approve a reasonable hockey trade. We've seen teams signing players to long-term contracts before the new CBA so it's not like GMs are scared of taking on long-term contracts before the new CBA.


+1

What ever changes occur in the new CBA will affect all contracts, including Lou's and the other 20 or so long term deals across the league. If teams are willing to sign players to new 8 or 10 or 13 year deals this summer, there is no difference in trading for a similar deal. Business as usual.
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby mnaslund » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:59 am

Tciso wrote:
FAN wrote: The current CBA is set to expire but it hasn't expired yet so it's business as usual as far as trades and contract negotiations go and there's absolutely no reason why the league won't approve a reasonable hockey trade. We've seen teams signing players to long-term contracts before the new CBA so it's not like GMs are scared of taking on long-term contracts before the new CBA.


+1

What ever changes occur in the new CBA will affect all contracts, including Lou's and the other 20 or so long term deals across the league. If teams are willing to sign players to new 8 or 10 or 13 year deals this summer, there is no difference in trading for a similar deal. Business as usual.


So what are you saying?? GM's across the NHL are in line at Mike Gillis' office trying to make a trade for Bobby Luo??? if that was the case I think a deal would have been done a month ago. Perhaps Gillis just needs to sweeten the pot a little bit.....Hmmm maybe we can through in those two guy that wear the green suits and have no testicles in, Im sure thats all thats missing from this puzzle.besides thier testicles of course
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Strangelove » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:52 pm

in best Obi-Wan Kenobi voice:

Rat, trust your instincts, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

IT’S A DUCK!!!

And I think most of us are getting tired of ducks at this point....

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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Tciso » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:54 pm

mnaslund wrote:Mike Gillis should be fired and bring in a GM willing to do a proper rebuild. We are quickly becoming the calgary flames of the NHL, We made it to the cup finals and having done jack since. We need a GM willing to do what the flames management was not, and that is trade off any assets that still have value which really at this point is the sedins (ie inginla & kipper). If not im worried about what the status of this team will be.



I think that you under-value a few key components of the Canucks.

1) The twins are 31, not 35, so we have 4 more years to go
2) Schneider is 25, not 35.
3) we have a strong supporting cast of forwards
4) we have a strong defense, and 2 rising stars in Edler and Tanev.
5) We have no Sutters in key organization positions.
6) Luongo is a huge asset that will return value, in picks and players
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Strangelove » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:10 pm

Tciso wrote:
mnaslund wrote:QUACK!!!

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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby rats19 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:42 pm

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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Madcombinepilot » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:44 pm

Tciso wrote:
mnaslund wrote:Mike Gillis should be fired and bring in a GM willing to do a proper rebuild. We are quickly becoming the calgary flames of the NHL, We made it to the cup finals and having done jack since. We need a GM willing to do what the flames management was not, and that is trade off any assets that still have value which really at this point is the sedins (ie inginla & kipper). If not im worried about what the status of this team will be.



I think that you under-value a few key components of the Canucks.

1) The twins are 31, not 35, so we have 4 more years to go
2) Schneider is 25, not 35.
3) we have a strong supporting cast of forwards
4) we have a strong defense, and 2 rising stars in Edler and Tanev.
5) We have no Sutters in key organization positions.
6) Luongo is a huge asset that will return value, in picks and players


#5 is the key to all 6 points.
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby wafflecombine » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:02 pm

Lol... looks like we found some additional support for RD here in the forums!

Have to agree with the 6 points though. I would add in 2012 we were exhausted from the cup run in 2011, Danny got deliberately head hunted and Kesler came back too early and injured himself. In a way, a potential lock-out and delayed 2012-13 favours us.
1. No slow October start.
2. No Lou to blame for a slow start.
3. More time for recovery and training for the players nursing injuries
4. More time for the new recruits to train, learn system and get comfortable in a 'Nucks jersey.

At least that's the glass half full analysis :)
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Jovocop » Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:52 pm

mnaslund wrote:
Tciso wrote:
FAN wrote: The current CBA is set to expire but it hasn't expired yet so it's business as usual as far as trades and contract negotiations go and there's absolutely no reason why the league won't approve a reasonable hockey trade. We've seen teams signing players to long-term contracts before the new CBA so it's not like GMs are scared of taking on long-term contracts before the new CBA.


+1

What ever changes occur in the new CBA will affect all contracts, including Lou's and the other 20 or so long term deals across the league. If teams are willing to sign players to new 8 or 10 or 13 year deals this summer, there is no difference in trading for a similar deal. Business as usual.


So what are you saying?? GM's across the NHL are in line at Mike Gillis' office trying to make a trade for Bobby Luo??? if that was the case I think a deal would have been done a month ago. Perhaps Gillis just needs to sweeten the pot a little bit.....Hmmm maybe we can through in those two guy that wear the green suits and have no testicles in, Im sure thats all thats missing from this puzzle.besides thier testicles of course


Hmm... let me see, there are teams lining up for Shane Doan but he still has put his signature on any contracts yet... There might be teams making offers for Luongo but MG is still waiting for the best deal..??? Just because Luongo is still a Canuck does not mean he is useless. Perhaps you should ask Sather, he just traded for a guy who asked for a trade since the last trading deadline.
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Jovocop » Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:54 pm

wafflecombine wrote:Lol... looks like we found some additional support for RD here in the forums!



It might just be RD himself... :lol:
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby nuckster » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:38 pm

mnaslund wrote:Some of you guys are worse then leaf fans I swear............... Luongo, is essentially useless to our team and I think its Mike Gillis' fault for letting the situation get this out of hand .



Hold it... WHAT?? WHAT did you say???

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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Topper » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:15 pm

nuckster wrote:
mnaslund wrote:Some of you guys are worse then leaf fans I swear............... Luongo, is essentially useless to our team and I think its Mike Gillis' fault for letting the situation get this out of hand .



Hold it... WHAT?? WHAT did you say???

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