Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

[RoyalDude]

The other risk is can Bjugstad pull a Schultz and become a FA, which ever way it goes there's quite a few if's ... which I suppose is why it's taking so long

I hope that the "Schultz" loophole would be fixed with this new CBA. Vancouver might not the top 3 destination in the NHL but I would imagine it would be among the top 10. Bjugstad could have the third line center job as soon as this season. I don't believe he would refuse to sign with the Canucks.

Bjugstad CANNOT "pull a Schultz".

Schultz had the loophole option because he played an extra year in the BCHL.

Bjugstad went straight from high school to the NCAA = no loophole.

Good news. Bjugstad is back on the table, even though I have no idea how good this kid is, if he is any good at all. I'm just going by what everyone else is saying. Every asset coming our way out of Florida seems to be a complete fucking mystery. Which scares me. That is, unless it's Burke or Nonis dealing with Florida.

[Jovocop]

Bjugstad CANNOT "pull a Schultz".

Schultz had the loophole option because he played an extra year in the BCHL.

Bjugstad went straight from high school to the NCAA = no loophole.

Good news. Bjugstad is back on the table, even though I have no idea how good this kid is, if he is any good at all. I'm just going by what everyone else is saying. Every asset coming our way out of Florida seems to be a complete fucking mystery. Which scares me. That is, unless it's Burke or Nonis dealing with Florida.

No wonder you hate MG so much because he stole your buddy's job...

[Strangelove]

I have no idea how good this kid is, if he is any good at all.

Well all we can do is check out his stats, check out youtube, check out writeups/scouting reports amirite?

That is, unless it's Burke or Nonis dealing with Florida.

Well I'm sure "The Cheesebuger Brothers" will rip Tallon off for Theodore after Florida picks up Lou!

[Fred]

Bjugstad CANNOT "pull a Schultz".

Schultz had the loophole option because he played an extra year in the BCHL.

Bjugstad went straight from high school to the NCAA = no loophole.

That's good to know, how the Hell do you remember things like this

[rats19]

One thing about doc.....he always does his homework Fred.

[Southern_Canuck]

Bjugstad CANNOT "pull a Schultz".

Schultz had the loophole option because he played an extra year in the BCHL.

Bjugstad went straight from high school to the NCAA = no loophole.

That's true, he cannot end his NCAA career early, give his drafting team a few weeks to sign him, and then become an UFA.

However, like any other NCAA draftee, he can play his full 4 years, wait until Aug 15 of his graduating year, and then become an UFA.

S_C

[the Dogsalmon]

i watched his highlights and i dont think he is that big of a deal...a real big kid with a facemask playing in a underachieving league...lets see how he would roll in the WHL or OHL with the mask off and a stick or thumb constantly in his eye...how is he gonna toughen up in the NCAA(pansy league in my opinion)...too many Americans and foreigners on our team to win a Cup...

[Fred]

i watched his highlights and i dont think he is that big of a deal...a real big kid with a facemask playing in a underachieving league...lets see how he would roll in the WHL or OHL with the mask off and a stick or thumb constantly in his eye...how is he gonna toughen up in the NCAA(pansy league in my opinion)...too many Americans and foreigners on our team to win a Cup...

The trouble with highlights is they never show the low-lights simultaneously. I've made DVD's like that and viewed them to, but I have a very deep doubt what they're showing.

So SC Bjugstad can circumvent the current CBA and become a UFA. Which means who ever you want out of the NCAA you have to have an agreement with the agent before any trade is consummated. Holding out is not such a big deal if you really don't want to play for a team, Murray at Anaheim has a point if the Schultz deal, he should have been compensated by the Oilers

[Potatoe1]

i watched his highlights and i dont think he is that big of a deal...a real big kid with a facemask playing in a underachieving league...lets see how he would roll in the WHL or OHL with the mask off and a stick or thumb constantly in his eye...how is he gonna toughen up in the NCAA(pansy league in my opinion)...too many Americans and foreigners on our team to win a Cup...

Your opinion is antiquated to say the least. Most agree the level of competition is higher at the NCAA level then the CHL primarily due to the age of the players. There may be less fighting and dirty play but I doubt it's any less physical

As for Bjugstad, 6'4, aparently a great skater and 2-way guy who scored 25 goals in 40 games.

I don't see a prospect in the Organization with that kind of pedigree.

[Canuck-One]

i watched his highlights and i dont think he is that big of a deal...a real big kid with a facemask playing in a underachieving league...lets see how he would roll in the WHL or OHL with the mask off and a stick or thumb constantly in his eye...how is he gonna toughen up in the NCAA(pansy league in my opinion)...too many Americans and foreigners on our team to win a Cup...

Your opinion is antiquated to say the least. Most agree the level of competition is higher at the NCAA level then the CHL primarily due to the age of the players. There may be less fighting and dirty play but I doubt it's any less physical

As for Bjugstad, 6'4, aparently a great skater and 2-way guy who scored 25 goals in 40 games.

I don't see a prospect in the Organization with that kind of pedigree.

+1

[Lancer]

i watched his highlights and i dont think he is that big of a deal...a real big kid with a facemask playing in a underachieving league...lets see how he would roll in the WHL or OHL with the mask off and a stick or thumb constantly in his eye...how is he gonna toughen up in the NCAA(pansy league in my opinion)...too many Americans and foreigners on our team to win a Cup...

Your opinion is antiquated to say the least. Most agree the level of competition is higher at the NCAA level then the CHL primarily due to the age of the players. There may be less fighting and dirty play but I doubt it's any less physical

As for Bjugstad, 6'4, aparently a great skater and 2-way guy who scored 25 goals in 40 games.

I don't see a prospect in the Organization with that kind of pedigree.

+2

Name me the last 6'4" 20 year-old centre the Canucks had on their roster?

[Southern_Canuck]

+2

Name me the last 6'4" 20 year-old centre the Canucks had on their roster?

Libor Polasek?

S_C

[Potatoe1]

i watched his highlights and i dont think he is that big of a deal...a real big kid with a facemask playing in a underachieving league...lets see how he would roll in the WHL or OHL with the mask off and a stick or thumb constantly in his eye...how is he gonna toughen up in the NCAA(pansy league in my opinion)...too many Americans and foreigners on our team to win a Cup...

Your opinion is antiquated to say the least. Most agree the level of competition is higher at the NCAA level then the CHL primarily due to the age of the players. There may be less fighting and dirty play but I doubt it's any less physical

As for Bjugstad, 6'4, aparently a great skater and 2-way guy who scored 25 goals in 40 games.

I don't see a prospect in the Organization with that kind of pedigree.

+2

Name me the last 6'4" 20 year-old centre the Canucks had on their roster?

Yup, for some perspective Bjugstad scored the same number of goals in 42 games as our current best forward prospect (Jensen) scored in 57 games, and Bjustad scored his goals in a league where goals are much harder to come by.

[Fred]

Devils advocate, there's no flood of NCAA players making it in the bigs and as much as MG told us this year he was taking players going the college route because they stay there longer. He has also signed and had players leave the NCAA before graduation to get more NHL like games in the CHL... Tanev and Connauton to mention only two.

The NCAA doesn't have a grueling schedule ( they simply can't, academics fail a grade and you're gone ) infrequent travel, every other week approx.

I'd agree Bjugstad has all the tools but every year there's at least one NCAA free agent signed with high hope which often lead no where. Despite all the down side to the CHL they still provide by far the most players of any league players for the NHL

[Lancer]

Devils advocate, there's no flood of NCAA players making it in the bigs and as much as MG told us this year he was taking players going the college route because they stay there longer. He has also signed and had players leave the NCAA before graduation to get more NHL like games in the CHL... Tanev and Connauton to mention only two.

The NCAA doesn't have a grueling schedule ( they simply can't, academics fail a grade and you're gone ) infrequent travel, every other week approx.

I'd agree Bjugstad has all the tools but every year there's at least one NCAA free agent signed with high hope which often lead no where. Despite all the down side to the CHL they still provide by far the most players of any league players for the NHL

Agree on all counts regarding the differences between NCAA conditions and those of the NHL's. All that tells me is a kid coming from NCAA likely has to put in a year or two in the minors before being ready for the NHL. Doesn't mean he won't be an impact player or a player worth having in your top-6 for a long time - he may just be that at 22 vice 20. Considering Gillis' approach to prospect development, that works fine. If this were the Oilers, where they have a situation more appropriate for throwing teenagers into the fire, it would be a different story and behold - how many NCAA prospects to they have? They need their stars now. Gillis has his, and letting his potential next generation of stars mature in the NCAA and the minors isn't a bad thing.