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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Boston Canucker on Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:38 am

Canuck-One wrote:
Meds wrote:If TML ownership stepped in and directed Burke to get Luongo, and Burke offered up Phaneuf in a straight up deal, would anyone here take it?

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NO NO and NO. This guy doesn't have brain farts he has whole gas attacks. Useless is the word that comes to mind. I remember Henrik being asked about Phaneuf and he laughed, saying they liked playing against him. He would charge out of position trying to make a hit, they would slide to the side and uh oh it was now two on one. Phaneuf was once voted by his NHL peers as the most over rated player in hockey. Give your head a shake and just say no to drugs.


Um, no...

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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby CaptainTrev on Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:35 am

FAN wrote:Is it an attitude that Gillis and AV want?


Nope. It's well established in Cowtown that Phaneuf has a caustic attitude, and that's the main reason he got shipped out.

For a team like the Canucks who could get pushed over the top by one big addition, maybe the guys in the dressing room could suck it up for a year or two if the guy coming in was Norris-calibre. Phaneuf isn't.
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Blaster86 on Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:58 am

CaptainTrev wrote:
FAN wrote:Is it an attitude that Gillis and AV want?


Nope. It's well established in Cowtown that Phaneuf has a caustic attitude, and that's the main reason he got shipped out.
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Not actually correct. It was established that Phaneuf stepped in and tried to take a leadership role that rubbed Regher the wrong way which created a divisive dressing room so the team was left with the choice of either trading Regehr or Phaneuf. Like Dion or not, they made the wrong choice.
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby wienerdog on Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:45 pm

Blaster86 wrote:
CaptainTrev wrote:
FAN wrote:Is it an attitude that Gillis and AV want?


Nope. It's well established in Cowtown that Phaneuf has a caustic attitude, and that's the main reason he got shipped out.
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Not actually correct. It was established that Phaneuf stepped in and tried to take a leadership role that rubbed Regher the wrong way which created a divisive dressing room so the team was left with the choice of either trading Regehr or Phaneuf. Like Dion or not, they made the wrong choice.



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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Lancer on Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:32 am

Was reading an Ottawa Sun article by Brennan about how the Sens are still quite short of the current cap floor - by about $ 4 million - and it occurred to me that Ottawa might be a good fit for Luongo. His cap hit would put them above the floor but the way it's structured would make the real dollar hit more palatable for a small-market team like Ottawa. As much as Anderson can put in a really good game or two in a row, Luongo would be a marked improvement and would make the playoffs more of a certainty than a fluke like last year.

In terms of a return, there are pieces there if the trade were to get creative. Luongo and Ballard for Zach Smith, Jared Cowan, Greening/Zibanejad and or a 1st? Maybe a little rich, but it depends on if Ottawa's interested and what the market would be for Lou.

Besides, wouldn't it be rich to see Burke's face as Ottawa beats his Leafs with the goalie he was too stubborn to get?

Anyway, just thinkin...
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Fred on Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:58 am

Lancer wrote:Was reading an Ottawa Sun article by Brennan about how the Sens are still quite short of the current cap floor - by about $ 4 million - and it occurred to me that Ottawa might be a good fit for Luongo. His cap hit would put them above the floor but the way it's structured would make the real dollar hit more palatable for a small-market team like Ottawa. As much as Anderson can put in a really good game or two in a row, Luongo would be a marked improvement and would make the playoffs more of a certainty than a fluke like last year.

In terms of a return, there are pieces there if the trade were to get creative. Luongo and Ballard for Zach Smith, Jared Cowan, Greening/Zibanejad and or a 1st? Maybe a little rich, but it depends on if Ottawa's interested and what the market would be for Lou.

Besides, wouldn't it be rich to see Burke's face as Ottawa beats his Leafs with the goalie he was too stubborn to get?

Anyway, just thinkin...



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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby The_Pauser on Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:30 pm

Lancer wrote:Was reading an Ottawa Sun article by Brennan about how the Sens are still quite short of the current cap floor - by about $ 4 million - and it occurred to me that Ottawa might be a good fit for Luongo. His cap hit would put them above the floor but the way it's structured would make the real dollar hit more palatable for a small-market team like Ottawa. As much as Anderson can put in a really good game or two in a row, Luongo would be a marked improvement and would make the playoffs more of a certainty than a fluke like last year.

In terms of a return, there are pieces there if the trade were to get creative. Luongo and Ballard for Zach Smith, Jared Cowan, Greening/Zibanejad and or a 1st? Maybe a little rich, but it depends on if Ottawa's interested and what the market would be for Lou.

Besides, wouldn't it be rich to see Burke's face as Ottawa beats his Leafs with the goalie he was too stubborn to get?

Anyway, just thinkin...


Craig Anderson, Ben Bishop and Robin Lehner all say hi. I don't think Bryan Murray would mind upgrading his goalie spot in the short-term, but I think he would have a major problem paying the price that we would be asking for, especially with him holding 2 very good goalie prospects who both look like they will be ready very very soon (particularly Bishop).
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby SKYO on Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:42 pm

Imagine Florida says nay and Luongo goes on to win the Cup/ConnSmyth trophy? One of those rare goalie puts on a performance shows a year.
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby CaptainTrev on Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:05 pm

SKYO wrote:Imagine Florida says nay and Luongo goes on to win the Cup/ConnSmyth trophy? One of those rare goalie puts on a performance shows a year.


Imagine how WE would feel if that happens.

Unless of course you're suggesting that he's gonna do it in Canucks colours :mrgreen:
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby SKYO on Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:27 pm

CaptainTrev wrote:
SKYO wrote:Imagine Florida says nay and Luongo goes on to win the Cup/ConnSmyth trophy? One of those rare goalie puts on a performance shows a year.


Imagine how WE would feel if that happens.

Unless of course you're suggesting that he's gonna do it in Canucks colours :mrgreen:


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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby FAN on Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:29 am

SKYO wrote:I see Luongo like Belfour.


I can't figure out what you mean by that.
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby SKYO on Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:47 am

FAN wrote:
SKYO wrote:I see Luongo like Belfour.


I can't figure out what you mean by that.

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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Mr.Miyagi on Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:20 am

115 pages and I haven't weighed in yet. I was kind of just waiting for something to happen because I didn't want to speculate. To be quite honest I wasn't quite sure how I felt about Lou leaving. He has done ALOT for this franchise IMO. I think the "what have you done for me lately" rule applies to Luongo's situation in Vancouver .... permanently.

Less than 365 days after helping carry the team within one win from a Stanley Cup he was being sat in lieu of a younger, better goalie. I get it . It's a business. Pride shouldn't get in the way in professional sports and he handled like a pro. He sat, practiced and watched, said and did all of the right things and waited for the season to finish. I can't blame him for wanting out and I never will. He has to look out for his best interests too and his best interests do not involve sitting on the bench. He is still an excellent goaltender and deserves to be a no. 1. No doubt about it.

As for Schneider I can't blame Gillis and co. for signing him to stay in Vancouver. Kid is a stud, and he deserves every opportunity from the Canucks. He did his time (and then some) in the minors and never complained once. He played back up when he may have well been the better goaltender of the two. He kept his mouth shut, worked hard and earned his spot. I am honored to have this guy starting for us next year.

As for the trade scenario: I honestly don't care where Luongo goes as long as we get something good in return. I am proud of Gillis for not selling himself short just to get a deal done. Luongo is still a top 10 if not top 5 goaltender in the league and you don't just give one of those away for nothing.

I am comfortable to start the season (if there is a season?) with two no.1 goaltenders on the roster. 1)
These two already have a good working relationship and shouldn't cause a rift or problem. 2) They are both obviously familiar with the team and systems 3) They are both excellent goaltenders.

It wouldn't be such a bad problem to have temporarily. Give the rest of the league a couple of months to evaluate their goaltending needs (looking at you TO, TB, and FLA) and who knows? Maybe the asking price will be met?

This has probably all been discussed already but I am a lil' too lazy to read through the whole thread so meh ...

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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Island Nucklehead on Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:45 am

Mr.Miyagi wrote:It wouldn't be such a bad problem to have temporarily. Give the rest of the league a couple of months to evaluate their goaltending needs (looking at you TO, TB, and FLA) and who knows? Maybe the asking price will be met?


I agree. It's tough to have a goalie tandem signed for $9+ M... but in reality it's only a little more than a team like the Preds or Rangers will be spending on their goalies. And for the best tandem in hockey, it's not a bad deal.

The other thing to consider (besides the potential lockout) is the injuries that may befall other teams' goalies at the start of the season. That may open the door, as well as expand Luongo's list of teams.

I still somewhat hold out hope that we can move Schneider for a better return. The difference between him and Lou at the moment (and during our current window) will be minimal, and we can move CS wherever and he'll fetch a better return. However, it seems Luongo is set on returning to the SE and that will probably force us to move him eventually.
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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

Postby Tciso on Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:35 pm

SKYO wrote:
FAN wrote:
SKYO wrote:I see Luongo like Belfour.


I can't figure out what you mean by that.

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