Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

[dbr]

Looks like Bjugstad is setting up to pull a Justin Schultz.

While the risk is there, I think it's extremely premature to say that Bjugstad is shaping up to be another Justin Schultz. Lots of players have resisted turning pro despite pressure from the team holding their rights, Jack Johnson springs to mind as a recent example.

Heck if I remember correctly one Cory Schneider finished up his college career and was in a position to wait out the Canucks and hit unrestricted free agency and declined to do so.

Although if Tallon wants to panic and dump Bjugstad for whatever he can get I'd be happy to take him up on it.

[Per]

Why assume he wants out of the Panthers organization? Maybe he just wants to do the collage thing right now?

Really? I thought that art form more or less died out after the 1970's.

[CaptainTrev]

Why assume he wants out of the Panthers organization? Maybe he just wants to do the collage thing right now?

Really? I thought that art form more or less died out after the 1970's.

He's going back for lots arts and crafts time at the University of Minnesota.

Hippie.

[Strangelove]

Also note that from LeBrun and McKenzie it was Tallon who went to ownership to ask permission to take on Luongo's contract (not ownership telling Tallon to do it). LeBrun in particular has said that without a doubt the hockey people in the Panthers organization really want Luongo. Ownership also wants him as they feel they can sell more tickets with him back on the team.

Bolded part is the key. Net gain $$-wise with Lou in goal.

Burke wanted Vokoun. He wanted brodeur. He knows he needs to upgrade his goaltending but my guess is his ego won't let him take on the type of contract he has spoken out against despite it being the Leafs ticket to the playoffs. He also needs to pull his head out of the sand and realize that goaltending sometimes comes with a cost (for Vokoun a higher draft pick to acquire rights, for Brodeur an extra year in the contract).

Burke is completely full of shit. Remember when he said he would never give a NTC... then he gave one to Giguere saying it was only because his son had medical problems.... and he's given out many NTCs since. Said he wouldn't ask Kaberle to waive his NTC because that is one of the worst things a GM can do to a player.... then he asks Kaberle to waive (Kaberle didn't want to leave TO despite not liking Wilson much).

Then there was the blasting Burkie gave Lowe after the Oil offer-sheeted Penner. These kinds of offer-sheets were "inflationary towards 2nd contracts" he said. But a few years later Burke was threatening to offer-sheet Kessel, so he changed his story. There was no more lamenting about "inflationary 2nd contracts". Nope, NOW he claimed his complaint about Lowe was NOT about that. NOW he claimed it was all about being "blindsided" by Lowe, and that Burkie was a real man because he was warning Chiarelli he was going to offer-sheet Kessel.



/end Brian Bullshit Burke rant.

Other teams are interested in Lou, but Gillis will trade him to Florida because the organization comes off looking classy. Florida wants Lou and will reach a fair agreement on a trade for an elite goaltender.

Then Florida trades Theodore to TO and phony self-righteous Burke rails about how they overpaid for Luongo, which he would never do because he has his... principles.

[Boston Canucker]

I think it's unfair to be critical of Burke. His perennially loosened tie and exasperated, exhausted mien clearly shows how hard he is working. Doesn't it? Can't you see? And sometimes he is SO busy he doesn't even have time to start tying his tie, he can only wrap it around his shoulders...now THAT is a busy man; a man with a plan.

Have faith Leaf fans, Burke is hard at work, or well, at least that's what it looks like.

[Fred]

I think it's unfair to be critical of Burke. His perennially loosened tie and exasperated, exhausted mien clearly shows how hard he is working. Doesn't it? Can't you see? And sometimes he is SO busy he doesn't even have time to start tying his tie, he can only wrap it around his shoulders...now THAT is a busy man; a man with a plan.

Have faith Leaf fans, Burke is hard at work, or well, at least that's what it looks like.

Beautiful

[the Dogsalmon]

I think it's unfair to be critical of Burke. His perennially loosened tie and exasperated, exhausted mien clearly shows how hard he is working. Doesn't it? Can't you see? And sometimes he is SO busy he doesn't even have time to start tying his tie, he can only wrap it around his shoulders...now THAT is a busy man; a man with a plan.

Have faith Leaf fans, Burke is hard at work, or well, at least that's what it looks like.

he would be just as effective smoking a joint sitting in gynocology row at the peeler bar...i miss those days...

[SKYO]

such slow hockey news these days, I'm forced to read ek, but he made an interesting post:

I am hearing rumors the Leafs were in on Mueller who signed in Florida today for 1.7. Love what tallon is doing and Mueller might open up some more options to get Luongo done.

Tallon shoring up on centers, to help facilitate this trade finally? after the Doan domino.

so...Goc, Bjugstad, Ellerby it is.

[Lancer]

I guess now Bernier adds to the mix in terms of goalies available via trade:

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/LosAngeles/2012/07/12/19980316.html

The kid has potential, but it's the option of cheaper but unknown quantity vs. expensive but known elite quantity. Not sure how the ynamics may play out nor who wins by Bernier entering the trade market. It's not like LA will ask the King's (pardon the pun) ransom that Gillis likely is, and whoever gets him is another team off the market for Luongo, which limits how much leverage Gillis has. That said, it puts whoever loses on the first trade in a bit more of a bind in that it's one less available goalie, leaving you with the mroe expensive option.

Who ends up being the option 'B': Bernier or Luongo?

[Strangelove]

I guess now Bernier adds to the mix in terms of goalies available via trade:

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/LosAngeles/2012/07/12/19980316.html

The kid has potential, but it's the option of cheaper but unknown quantity vs. expensive but known elite quantity. Not sure how the ynamics may play out nor who wins by Bernier entering the trade market. It's not like LA will ask the King's (pardon the pun) ransom that Gillis likely is, and whoever gets him is another team off the market for Luongo, which limits how much leverage Gillis has. That said, it puts whoever loses on the first trade in a bit more of a bind in that it's one less available goalie, leaving you with the mroe expensive option.

Who ends up being the option 'B': Bernier or Luongo?

Ummm old news Lance.

This came out over 2 weeks ago, we've discussed it.

I have no idea how/why anyone would compare an elite goalie in his prime

... to a 23-year-old 48-total-NHL-games backup??

Just saying Bernier being available should not affect a Luongo trade at all....

[Lancer]

I guess now Bernier adds to the mix in terms of goalies available via trade:

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/LosAngeles/2012/07/12/19980316.html

The kid has potential, but it's the option of cheaper but unknown quantity vs. expensive but known elite quantity. Not sure how the ynamics may play out nor who wins by Bernier entering the trade market. It's not like LA will ask the King's (pardon the pun) ransom that Gillis likely is, and whoever gets him is another team off the market for Luongo, which limits how much leverage Gillis has. That said, it puts whoever loses on the first trade in a bit more of a bind in that it's one less available goalie, leaving you with the mroe expensive option.

Who ends up being the option 'B': Bernier or Luongo?

Ummm old news Lance.

This came out over 2 weeks ago, we've discussed it.

I have no idea how/why anyone would compare an elite goalie in his prime

... to a 23-year-old 48-total-NHL-games backup??

How many pages ago was that?? Two weeks ago is like eons on this board!

As for the comparison, leave it to a guy like Burke to rationalize it should he not get Luongo. At that point it's Bernier or Reimer/Scrivens.

[Strangelove]

How many pages ago was that?? Two weeks ago is like eons on this board!

Your problem is that you get out too much.

[Meds]

I have no idea how/why anyone would compare an elite goalie in his prime

... to a 23-year-old 48-total-NHL-games backup??

I came THIS CLOSE to biting on that one.....

[SKYO]

Bernier is a tad too young to start demanding trades, LA has to set an example with him.

OTHERWISE every young gun in the NHL will start demanding trades like they are gods gift to earth.

When will this madness stop!?!

[vic]

I have no idea how/why anyone would compare an elite goalie in his prime

... to a 23-year-old 48-total-NHL-games backup??

I came THIS CLOSE to biting on that one.....

ditto